

{"id":11476,"date":"2018-05-11T15:09:05","date_gmt":"2018-05-11T13:09:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=11476"},"modified":"2018-05-11T15:47:44","modified_gmt":"2018-05-11T13:47:44","slug":"deschisul-unui-s-r-l-in-romania-si-cum-ni-l-au-furat-englejii-pe-arsenie-boca","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=11476","title":{"rendered":"Deschisul unui S.R.L \u00een Rom\u00e2nia \u0219i cum ni l-au furat englejii pe Arsenie Boca"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p>A\u021bi zice poate c\u0103-s pe ciuperci \u0219i ce leg\u0103tur\u0103 au ideile \u0103stea dou\u0103. Da&#8217; nu-s.<\/p>\n<p>Am citit amuzat \u0219tirea cum c\u0103 Manastirea de la Prislop unde se odihne\u0219te defunctul, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.news.ro\/social\/arad-detinatorul-drepturilor-asupra-imaginii-lui-arsenie-boca-in-romania-un-tanar-de-24-de-ani-a-notificat-sute-de-firme-dar-si-manastirea-prislop-1922400311002018051318106757\"><strong>nu mai are voie s\u0103 v\u00e2nd\u0103 suveniruri cu poza lui,<\/strong><\/a> pe motive de licen\u021b\u0103 .\u00a0 Pentru mine nu asta e \u0219tirea d\u0103-l \u00een \u201d<em>doamne iart\u0103-m\u0103\u201d\u00a0<\/em> ca s\u0103 folosesc o expresie cre\u0219tineasc\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103 nu zic chiar pula mea. Ci c\u0103\u00a0 o companie britanic\u0103 a \u00eenregistrat marca \u201dP\u0103rintele Arsenie Boca\u201d\u00a0 la oficiul european de proprietate intelectual\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i prima idee e, cum m\u0103, ni\u0219te engleji? Ce treab\u0103 au \u0103ia cu Boca? P\u0103i niciuna , c\u0103ci compania e de\u021binut\u0103 de un ungur, <a href=\"https:\/\/beta.companieshouse.gov.uk\/officers\/qEwD3gh6pueFduU-KoxPKJgrsjc\/appointments\">Sandor Ando<\/a>r,\u00a0 \u00a0asupra c\u0103ruia exist\u0103 suspiciunea c\u0103 nu ar fi get-beget din Che\u0219cheme\u0219, ci c-ar fi un maghiar de-al nostru, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ebihoreanul.ro\/stiri\/ultima-or-31-6\/escroc-de-marca-afaceristul-oradean-care-s-a-instapanit-pe-marca-arsenie-boca-este-inculpat-pentru-un-tun-de-34-milioane-lei-139630.html\">de la <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ebihoreanul.ro\/stiri\/ultima-or-31-6\/escroc-de-marca-afaceristul-oradean-care-s-a-instapanit-pe-marca-arsenie-boca-este-inculpat-pentru-un-tun-de-34-milioane-lei-139630.html\">Oradea<\/a>\u00a0 ( <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=oftvvCvVYaw\">D\u0103 Bihor pos&#8217; fuji, da&#8217; nu te po\u021bi ascunde<\/a> ).<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i-atunci de ce dracului a deschis el firma \u00een UK? Bine poate e complicat s\u0103 deschizi firma \u00een RO, dac\u0103 ai deja probleme cu legea, dar pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 asta, peste &#8211; intr\u0103 experien\u021ba mea cu deschisul lu&#8217; SRL ( \u00eenc\u0103 nu-i deschis) , \u00een condi\u021biile \u00een care nu m\u0103 ocup eu de asta, c\u0103 nu sunt nebun.<\/p>\n<p>C\u0103 e a\u0219a , o activitate pe zile .<\/p>\n<p>1 zi\u00a0Mergi la Oficiul Registrului Comer\u0163ului\u00a0pentru rezervarea numelui firmei. Eu am dat 3 variante, erau luate toate, le-a \u00eencurci\u0219at contabila \u0219i a ie\u0219it un carcalete de 3 nume . Oook.\u00a0<strong>Nu exist\u0103 un registru online pus la dispozi\u021bia publicului, s\u0103 vezi \u0219i tu, \u00een pula mea, ce nume sunt luate. Nu nene, tre\u021b s\u0103 mergi acolo s\u0103 se uite un OM \u00een calculator.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Alt\u0103 zi c\u0103 doar nu ai toata ziua la dispozi\u021bie p\u00e2n\u0103 seara &#8211;\u00a0\u00cenchei\u00a0 contractul de comodat pe numele rezervat \u015fi actul constitutiv \u0219i cu rezervarea de nume mergi la banc\u0103 s\u0103 depui capitalul social. Pentru c\u0103 actele sunt pe h\u00e2rtii \u0219i\u00a0 c\u0103 tre&#8217; s\u0103 se uite altceva dec\u00e2t o inteligen\u021b\u0103 artifical\u0103 pe ele, trebuie s\u0103 mergi per pedes.<\/p>\n<p>Apoi, cu roaba de acte , te \u00eentorci la ONRC \u0219i\u00a0\u00a0completezi formularele necesare dosarului de \u00eenfiin\u0163are. Alt\u0103 roab\u0103. Apoi depui dosarul completat, dac\u0103 e corect \u0219i \u021bi-l accept\u0103 \u0103ia, \u0219i a\u0219tep\u021bi c\u00e2teva zile. Nu multe. Lol.<\/p>\n<p>P\u0103i da, eu sunt angajatul ONRC \u0219i al statului, taic\u0103, \u0219i alta nu!<\/p>\n<p>Inten\u021bionam s\u0103-mi deschid un S.R.L cu sediul la \u021bar\u0103,\u00a0 c\u0103 nu am pofta de companii cu sediul prin apartament la Bucure\u0219ti ( s\u0103 merg s\u0103 m\u0103 milogesc vecinilor s\u0103-mi dea acordul \u0219i bun\u0103voin\u021ba s\u0103 nu fiu \u0219omer, cum ar veni-\u00eenc\u0103 o zi doua pierdute numai cu asta). Dar la \u021bar\u0103 e \u0219i mai complicat, c\u0103 trebuie ni\u0219te acte de proprietate pe cas\u0103\u00a0 ( cred c\u0103 le are tata pe \u0103stea) , altele care trebuie luate de la prim\u0103rie, un contract de comodat \u00eentre tata, patronu&#8217;\u00a0 la casa de acolo \u0219i mine,\u00a0 patronu&#8217; la firma wanabe.\u00a0 \u0218i cu alea s\u0103 merg la ONRC, s\u0103 depun mai \u00eenainte o cerere de rezervare pe nume. Pe urma alte acte, pe urm\u0103 ANAF, pe urm\u0103 du actele la contabil \u0219i f\u0103-i procur\u0103 s\u0103 se ocupe.<\/p>\n<p>Online, nu, nu se poate.<\/p>\n<p>ETE PULA!<\/p>\n<p>Am luat \u00een calcul s\u0103 preiau un SRL existent de la un prieten. Aia era op\u021biunea cea mai bun\u0103, vede\u021bi voi de ce ( TVA), dar avea contabilul tot felul de jene \u0219i \u00eentreb\u0103ri la care nu \u0219tiam neaparat r\u0103spunsul \u0219i pierdeam prea mult timp cu forwardingul.\u00a0 \u0218i mai erau \u0219i cu aia ceva proceduri de urmat.<\/p>\n<p>A\u0219a c\u0103 solu\u021bia cea mai simpl\u0103 a fost s\u0103 merg cu firma de conta la notar s\u0103 \u00eei imputernicesc s\u0103-mi deschid\u0103 ei firma \u0219i s\u0103 cump\u0103r g\u0103zduire de sediu social SRL ( 190 EUR\/ an \u00een Bucure\u0219ti), cam ca hostingu&#8217;\u00a0 de 5 EURO la\u00a0 Webfactor. S\u0103 fie \u00een acte c\u0103 am sediu.\u00a0 Nici nu \u0219tiu unde e adresa aia.<\/p>\n<p>Zis \u0219i f\u0103cut. Au f\u0103cut dumnealor programare la notar, eu am luat <a href=\"http:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=11471\">un uber<\/a> \u0219i m-am prezentat.\u00a0 Nu v\u0103 spun dec\u00e2t c\u00e2teva cuvinte, c\u0103 nu e bine s\u0103 vorbe\u0219ti notarii de r\u0103u, mai ales pe \u0103ia care-\u021bi au actele tale.<\/p>\n<p>N-am nimic de repro\u0219at serviciile fa\u021b\u0103 de mine, au fost ok, m-au invitat \u00eentr-o camera \u0219i am f\u0103cut ceea ce era de f\u0103cut, mai merg \u0219i alt\u0103 dat\u0103, dar cu fric\u0103.\u00a0 Erau numai femei \u00een birou, toate doamne bine \u0219i foarte bine, \u00een sensul c\u0103 de la 90 \u00een sus. Nu ani.\u00a0 Big bones, \u0219ti\u021bi voi. Un pic amuzant, dar nu asta st\u0103 \u00een calea profesionalismului.<\/p>\n<p>C\u00e2t c\u0103 se certau \u00eentre ele \u0219i \u00eenjurau ca la u\u0219a cortului. B\u0103i frate, r\u00e2deam pe \u00eenfundate cu contabila\u00a0 care trebuia s\u0103 preia\u00a0 actele.\u00a0 Doamna notar era cea mai bine dintre toate, cam pe la\u00a0 vreo 2 metri \u00een\u0103l\u021bime \u0219i \u00eenjura la telefon cel mai tare \u0219i mai tare.\u00a0 C\u00e2nd a intrat \u00een camer\u0103 m-am timorat pu\u021bin, da&#8217; n-aveam de ce.\u00a0 &#8220;Buna ziua, e totul \u00een regul\u0103? Semna\u021bi, v\u0103 rog, aici. V\u0103 mul\u021bumim!&#8221; M\u0103 uitam s\u0103 v\u0103d dac\u0103 e aceea\u0219i persoan\u0103 de mai \u00eenainte. Parc\u0103 avea \u0219i alt\u0103 voce.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen fine, c\u00e2t\u00a0 am stat acolo \u0219i-am vorbit de deschiderea firmei am ajuns la\u00a0 dou\u0103 chestii pe care nu le \u0219tiam .<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Po\u021bi fi asociat unic doar la o singur\u0103 firm\u0103, \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. Deci dac\u0103 vrei mai multe firme, nu po\u021bi fi asociat unic dec\u00e2t la una. La celelalte trebuie s\u0103 ai parteneri. Obligatoriu.<\/li>\n<li>Dac\u0103 ai dosar penal, sau cazier fiscal nu po\u021bi fi administrator al unei companii. Asta-i de bun sim\u021b. Nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 po\u021bi fi asociat.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\u0218i am ajuns la ce m\u0103 interesa pe mine . Codul de TVA, util s\u0103 facturez \u00een spa\u021biul intracomunitar.\u00a0 \u00cemi spune contabila c\u0103-i un pic complicat cu asta.<\/p>\n<p>Cum a\u0219a?<\/p>\n<p>Pai , i-auzi, codul \u0103sta nu se d\u0103 a\u0219a la oricine. Faci DOSAR\/CERERE \u0219i tre&#8217; s\u0103 impresionezi ANAF-ul dac\u0103 vrei cod de TVA, c\u0103 nu-i pentru to\u021bi pro\u0219tii. Serios.<\/p>\n<p>Faptul c\u0103 am hosting ieftin la sediul social nu ajut\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Cam trebuie s\u0103 am angaja\u021bi la companie.<\/p>\n<p>S\u0103 le prezint ni\u0219te contracte \u0219i faptul c\u0103-s continuate de pe PFA, deci chiar sunt Fane Jup\u00e2nu, nu pielea pulii.<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i, colac peste pup\u0103z\u0103, s\u0103 merg la un INTERVIU, \u00een persoan\u0103 la ANAF, s\u0103 m\u0103 ia \u0103ia la \u00eentreb\u0103ri.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cei \u0219i aud pe inspectori:<\/p>\n<p><em>-Ia zi m\u0103, oag\u0103re, ce faci tu cu codul \u0103la? tu crezi c\u0103 TVA-ul e a\u0219a pentru oricine m\u0103? Ai pus, m\u0103, pu\u021b\u0103 toate timbrele fiscale la dosar?\u00a0 Ai m\u0103 acte doveditoare?\u00a0 Diploma de la facultate \u0219i foaia matricol\u0103 este? De ce ai, m\u0103, mai pu\u021bin de 7 la examenul de licen\u021b\u0103, ai? Al cui e\u0219ti, m\u0103, tu de vrei cod de TVA? B\u0103, tu \u0219tii pe c\u00e2\u021bi am refuzat, m\u0103 noi?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Serios, am auzit c\u0103-s oarecum \u201dexigen\u021bi\u201d, dar c\u0103 \u201d\u00een mod normal\u201d eu m-a\u0219 califica. Normal, \u00een pula mea, c\u0103 m-a\u0219 califica, pentru c\u0103 PESTE ~60k EUR pe an \u00eencasa\u021bi \u00ee\u021bi dau ei cu japca cod de TVA. Adic\u0103 nu mai po\u021bi s\u0103-l refuzi, te oblig\u0103 s\u0103-l \u00eencasezi.<\/p>\n<p>Daaar, dac\u0103 \u00eel vrei tu de la \u00eenceput ca s\u0103 termini b\u00e2lciul, nu po\u021bi, c\u0103 nu-i pentru toat\u0103 lumea, n-auzi? Cred c\u0103 nu au destule coduri, sau ceva, lol.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pentru c\u0103, da, \u00een pula mea, \u00een Rom\u00e2nia sunt AT\u00c2T de multe \u201dafaceri\u201d care nu \u00eencaseaza m\u0103car 60,000 de EUR pe an, dar se numesc afaceri \u0219i vor s\u0103 \u00eencaseze TVA, de fapt, nu vor s\u0103 \u00eencaseze, c\u0103 n-au de unde. Nu. Ei vor s\u0103 deconteze, TVA, mai mult dec\u00e2t \u00eencaseaza, s\u0103 le dea statul bani. \u0218i normal c\u0103 e\u0219ti pus la zid cu to\u021bi g\u0103inarii \u0103\u0219tia \u0219i c\u0103utat prin buzunare. mUE!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Iar eu fac limita aia \u00een mai pu\u021bin de 5 luni, cred. Pai de ce m-a\u0219 osteni s\u0103 stau eu la pula lor ? Nu cred c\u0103 am timp de vr\u0103jeli, dar l-a\u0219 solicita cam c\u00e2nd ajung la limit\u0103 a\u0219a , a\u0219 merge la interviu, a\u0219 face mega mi\u0219to de ei, ca s\u0103 m\u0103 refuze \u00een spume, doar ca s\u0103 primesc peste dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni notificarea c\u0103-s\u00a0<strong>obligat\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong> s\u0103 \u00eencasez TVA.\u00a0 Eventual tot de la aceia\u0219i agen\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Vreau doar s\u0103 v\u0103 spun c\u0103\u00a0 pot deschide firm\u0103 \u00een Estonia f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 calc \u00een \u021bara aia.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen Uk trebuie s\u0103 \u00eemi iau num\u0103r de rezident \u0219i dup\u0103 aia deschid online.<\/p>\n<p>De aia \u0219i Arsenie Boca a fost \u00eenregistrat pe o firm\u0103 din UK, m\u0103. C\u0103 e mai u\u0219or, m\u0103. E mai u\u0219or s\u0103 orice.<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Tocmai mi-a scris contabila ca nu-i bine cum fac eu.\u00a0 Adica am primit documentele pe care treuia sa le semnez, le-am convertit in\u00a0 .PDF , le-am semnat pe mobil cu Adobe Fill &amp; Sign si le-am trimis inapoi.<\/p>\n<p>NU. Trebuie originale, c\u00e2te doua,semnate pe hartie si trimise prin po\u0219t\u0103, sau ceva.<\/p>\n<p>Ok, tre&#8217; s\u0103 iau legatura cu amicul din Estonia, am \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 taxele-s mai mari\u00a0 un pic acolo, dar totu\u0219i, d\u0103-o \u00een s\u00e2nge.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A\u021bi zice poate c\u0103-s pe ciuperci \u0219i ce leg\u0103tur\u0103 au ideile \u0103stea dou\u0103. Da&#8217; nu-s. 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