

{"id":18011,"date":"2020-07-13T10:56:13","date_gmt":"2020-07-13T09:56:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=18011"},"modified":"2020-07-13T10:58:11","modified_gmt":"2020-07-13T09:58:11","slug":"oare-grecii-s-de-vina","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=18011","title":{"rendered":"Oare, grecii-s de vin\u0103?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n\n<p>      E un pic de am\u0103r\u0103ciune pe tema faptului c\u0103, uite, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.capital.ro\/lovitura-devastatoare-pentru-romanii-care-vor-sa-isi-petreaca-vacanta-in-grecia-guvernul-elen-a-anuntat-restrictii-de-calatorie.html\">b\u0103, nu ne mai las\u0103 grecii s\u0103 mergem la ei<\/a>, noi vrem s\u0103 le d\u0103m bani, pentru c\u0103 nu vrem s\u0103 le d\u0103m bani c\u0103ca\u021bilor din Rom\u00e2nia  care ne j\u0103pc\u0103resc ca turi\u0219ti, de parc\u0103 nu am fi fra\u021bii lor &#8211; iar ei se cac\u0103 pe noi \u0219i ne pun restric\u021bii dup\u0103 ce <a href=\"https:\/\/financialintelligence.ro\/hotelierii-din-grecia-se-declara-pregatiti-sa-primeasca-turisti-masuri-de-siguranta-pentru-ca-acestia-sa-nu-se-imbolnaveasca-la-ei\/\">ne-au chemat<\/a>.  Iar romulanii au luptat pentru dreptul lor de a merge la greci \u00een concediu, chiar atunci c\u00e2nd statul , un pic jegos, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.ro\/carantina-14-zile-pentru-romanii-care-se-vor-intoarce-din-bulgaria-sau-grecia-167754\">\u00eei amenin\u021ba cu carantina la \u00eentoarcere<\/a>, de\u0219i Grecia era o \u021bar\u0103 mai pu\u021bin afectat\u0103 de carcalac. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u0103i, totul pleac\u0103 de la o perspectiv\u0103 gre\u0219it\u0103 a romulanilor cu privire la greci. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;<em><strong>Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes<\/strong><\/em>&#8221; &#8211; din <a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.co.uk\/books?id=yZDaDwAAQBAJ&amp;pg=PT5&amp;lpg=PT5&amp;dq=Eneida&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=llTpp8d8Ww&amp;sig=ACfU3U09NuXURO7x8js8gUrW5L7StO01mg&amp;hl=ro&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiY-IWb78nqAhUqIcUKHXltBpcQ6AEwBXoECBgQAQ#v=onepage&amp;q=Eneida&amp;f=false\">Eneida<\/a> (mai pune\u021b&#8217; \u0219i voi m\u00e2na pe o carte, c\u0103 e \u00een programa \u0219colar\u0103 ) de acum 2000 de ani.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Romulanii nu-s prietenii grecilor. Nu \u0219tiu cine sunt prietenii lor, dac\u0103 sunt vreunii, dar ideea e c\u0103 grecii,  prin mai \u00ee\u0219i f\u0103ceau probabil griji c\u0103 e cam groas\u0103 treaba cu covidu&#8217; \u0219i probabil or s\u0103 sufere pe partea economic\u0103, c\u0103 deh, situa\u021bia nu era roz\u0103 deloc prin \u021b\u0103rile cu turi\u0219ti care \u00eei viziteaz\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Romulanii ajung \u00een general \u00een Grecia \u00een num\u0103r mare, foarte des \u00een zona de low cost . Ei \u0219tiu bine aia &#8211; \u021bine\u021bi minte chestionarele-flutura\u0219 \u0103ia pe care v\u0103 mai pun s\u0103-i completa\u021bi c\u00e2nd ajunge\u021bi pe la ei prin \u021bar\u0103 ? \u0102ia cu unde v-a\u021bi cazat, c\u00e2t a\u021bi stat, c\u00e2t a\u021bi cheltuit, plm, \u0103stea.  Fac \u0219i ei profilul clien\u021bilor lor. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Eh, low cost o fi, dar Rom\u00e2nia era una din \u021b\u0103rile cele mai curate \u00een perioada aia, dar mai ales dornice de vacan\u021b\u0103, cu cerere mare, pentru c\u0103 \u0219tim cum e \u00een Rom\u00e2nia la mare, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/watch\/?v=297980548216264\">dar mai ales \u0219tim ce p\u0103rere avem noi romulanii despre noi . <\/a> ( lua\u021bi cu un pic de sare ce spune nenea acolo, tipul e (fost?) senator cu ceva probleme de credibilitate &#8211; dar observa\u021bia, \u00een mare e corect\u0103)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dar grecii nu-s prietenii rom\u00e2nilor, iar \u00een ultimele s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni situa\u021bia s-a schimbat, nu doar cu privire la gradul de pandemie din Rom\u00e2nia, dar \u0219i cu privire la afluxul poten\u021bial de turi\u0219ti din celelalte \u021b\u0103ri, care-s mai importante pentru Grecia dec\u00e2t Rom\u00e2nia. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen\u021beleg c\u0103 voi poate v\u0103 sim\u021bi\u021bi apropia\u021bi \u0219i importan\u021bi pentru Grecia, dar nu-i a\u0219a. Nu sunte\u021bi mai apropia\u021bi \u0219i mai importan\u021bi dec\u00e2t turi\u0219tii din \u021b\u0103rile vestice \u0219i nordice, care \u00een general merg \u00een propor\u021bie mai mic\u0103 \u00een Grecia, dar acum spa\u021biul de vacan\u021ba s-a modificat un pic, iar Grecia e brusc o op\u021biune mai bun\u0103, iar pentru greci \u0103\u0219tia sunt o op\u021biune mai  bun\u0103 dec\u00e2t rom\u00e2nii. <br \/><br \/>Iar \u00een condi\u021biile \u00een care infanteri\u0219tii, sau hai s\u0103 spunem pedestra\u0219i ( c\u0103 totu\u0219i venim din evul mediu \u0219i am clarificat mai sus ce p\u0103rere are un rom\u00e2n bun despre semenii lui) invadeaz\u0103 Grecia pe la Kulata cu cozi de 4-5 ore, nu au o problem\u0103 s\u0103 fac\u0103 managementul turi\u0219tilor cu ni\u0219te filtre, chit c\u0103 ele poate sunt sperietoare &#8211; \u00eenc\u0103 nu e clar dac\u0103 se \u021bine sau nu seama de rezultatele testelor de COVID, care sunt aproape de irelevant.  <br \/>Zic asta \u00een contextul \u00een care trebuie s\u0103 prezin\u021bi un test negativ efectuat cu maxim 3 zile \u00een avans. <br \/>1) Este posibil s\u0103 fii proasp\u0103t infectat \u0219i s\u0103 nu ias\u0103 la teste? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthline.com\/health-news\/when-should-you-get-a-covid-19-test-what-about-an-antibody-test#Getting-tested-for-COVID-19-\">Este de prea. <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2)Este posibil sa te infectezi dup\u0103 ce faci testul? Este, n-am link, dar e logic. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>3)Este posibil sa iesi pozitiv la teste si sa nu mai fii infec\u021bios? Este,<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"> dar s\u0103 zicem c\u0103 asta nu conteaz\u0103, important e s\u0103 sufl\u0103m \u0219i-n iaurt.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ideea e ca ei fac un fel de filtru acolo, iar filtrul \u0103sta, cu toate problemele testelor de Covid, dac\u0103 se aplic\u0103, va avea <strong>ceva <\/strong> eficien\u021b\u0103 epidemiologic\u0103 \u0219i ceva poten\u021bial de filtrare a turi\u0219tilor, pentru c\u0103 ac\u021bioneaz\u0103 ca deterent . <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen ce fel ? Pai, una la m\u00e2n\u0103 , c\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103 filtrul nu se aplic\u0103 celor ce c\u0103l\u0103toresc cu avionul.  Adic\u0103? \u0102lora care au fonduri mai consistente de vacan\u021b\u0103, merg cu charter la resorturi, poate la AI, \u00een\u021belege\u021bi voi : marc\u0103 banul, c\u0103 banul e prietenul grecului. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A doua la m\u00e2n\u0103, testele cost\u0103 bani \u0219i timp, iar dintre cei care merg \u201epe jos\u201e ( adic\u0103 cu ma\u0219ina) unii vor renun\u021ba la idee, c\u0103 e un pic b\u0103taie de cap s\u0103 faci testele , ia \u0219tampile, ia pula \u00een bra\u021be \u0219i arat\u0103-le \u0103lora la frontier\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lucru care este exact ceea ce caut\u0103 \u0219i grecii , dac\u0103 e s\u0103 te ui\u021bi la situa\u021bie pe bune. M\u0103 \u00eendoiesc c\u0103 ei au neap\u0103rat o problem\u0103 cu faptul c\u0103 sunt rom\u00e2nii pe val \u0219i nu respect\u0103 distan\u021b\u0103ri sociale \u0219i norme, at\u00e2t timp c\u00e2t ei nu poart\u0103 m\u0103\u0219ti mai abitir dec\u00e2t romulanii. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Acuma, face\u021bi ce vre\u021bi, eu personal, dac\u0103 a\u0219 avea vacan\u021b\u0103 \u00een Grecia \u0219i ar fi anulabil\u0103 \u00een vreun fel a\u0219 anula-o. Scurt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gen , dac\u0103 nu m\u0103 vre\u021bi, nu m\u0103 ave\u021bi . Grecia e mi\u0219to, \u00eemi place, dar e o chestiune strict de principii. <br \/><br \/>Nu zic c\u0103 m-a\u0219 duce la Mamaia, c\u0103 \u0219ti\u021bi p\u0103rerea mea despre litoralul rom\u00e2nesc, e lcoul \u0103la unde duc copiii la mare dac\u0103 nu au fost cumin\u021bi. Pentru ce conteaz\u0103, e ok, e mai mi\u0219to dec\u00e2t \u00een UK, lol. \u00cen sensul c\u0103 po\u021bi s\u0103 faci \u0219i baie \u00een  mare, nu de \u201dmi\u0219to-mi\u0219to\u201d. Cum \u0103\u0219tia fac baie acas\u0103, banuiesc c\u0103 nu le pas\u0103 prea tare de faptul c\u0103 au oceanul cam rece \u0219i mar\u00e9ea cam mare s\u0103 fac\u0103 ceva pe tem\u0103 ( s\u0103 pun\u0103 ni\u0219te<em><a href=\"https:\/\/ro.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stabilopod\"> stafilococi <\/a><\/em>din \u0103ia de ciment ca s\u0103 opreasc\u0103 curen\u021bii, etc) <br \/><br \/>S\u0103 te v\u0103ic\u0103re\u0219ti online \u0219i off-line c\u0103 te persecut\u0103 grecii e stupid. Politica lor extern\u0103 \u00eei prive\u0219te. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ba chiar, la o asemenea reac\u021bie, diplomatic, dac\u0103 a\u0219 fi eu \u201din charge\u201d a\u0219 merge pe reciprocitate. Cet\u0103\u021benii greci care trec pe jos grani\u021ba \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, s\u0103 pun\u0103 la dispozi\u021bie testul de Covid.  Care am zis c\u0103 nu-i neap\u0103rat relevant, dar  poate , evident, folosi drept unealt\u0103 diplomatic\u0103. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>E un pic de am\u0103r\u0103ciune pe tema faptului c\u0103, uite, b\u0103, nu ne mai las\u0103 grecii s\u0103 mergem la ei, noi vrem s\u0103 le d\u0103m&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":18012,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3499,170],"tags":[80,4008,4009],"class_list":["post-18011","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-economie","category-politice","tag-grecia","tag-grecii-impun-teste-covid-romanilor","tag-vacanta-in-grecia-2020"],"views":1641,"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/aeneas-greek.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Eq23-4Gv","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18011","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18011"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18011\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18016,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18011\/revisions\/18016"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/18012"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18011"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18011"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18011"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}