

{"id":21210,"date":"2021-12-29T10:33:07","date_gmt":"2021-12-29T10:33:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=21210"},"modified":"2021-12-29T10:33:07","modified_gmt":"2021-12-29T10:33:07","slug":"un-scurt-la-factura-de-curent-piata-concurentiala","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=21210","title":{"rendered":"Un scurt la factura de curent. Pia\u021ba concuren\u021bial\u0103"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n\n<p>Trage la muie clien\u021bilor ei, exact a\u0219a cum era de a\u0219teptat. Nu, nu e <strong>din cauz\u0103  c\u0103 acum energia s-a scumpit, altfel totul e OK. <\/strong> S\u0103 \u00eentreb\u0103m produc\u0103torii de energie verde din Rom\u00e2nia \u0219i prosumatorii c\u00e2t primesc pe KWh \u00eenainte de a urla c\u0103 s-a scumpit. \u0102sta e graficul <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.opcom.ro\/pp\/grafice_ip\/raportPIPsiVolumTranzactionat.php?lang=ro\">PZU <\/a><\/strong>pe decembrie. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A fost o perioad\u0103 bun\u0103, ce-i drept cu pre\u021buri de 1 leu \/ kwh, dar s-a \u00eenjum\u0103t\u0103\u021bit.  Daca te uiti la pretul de furnizare al energiei electrice active cam pe orice contract , e pe la 0.55 &#8211; 0.66. Restul sunt taxe si comisioane pe servicii. Inclusiv TVA. Statul percepe TVA standard &#8211; 19% pe activitatea economica de furnizare de energie electrica la consumatorul final. Consumi curent, dai la stat 19%.  Pe langa taxa pe certificate verzi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pe langa taxa de cogenerare de inalta eficienta &#8211; ce e vrajeala asta?  E o taxa din care se platesc stimulente pentru CET-uri, ca produc abur\/apa calda pentru incalzire si de uz menajer in orase si au si o turbina cu care fac curent si-l vand. Iar investitiile astea sunt cumva stimulate si platite te tine, fraiere care ai centrala proprie. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ca tot era vorba ca Bucurestenii din banii lor, platesc investitiile pentru jumatate din tara. Eh uite aici ( mai jos in exemplu) cum toata tara le plateste in factura de curent parte din apa calda cu care se incalzeste pamantul de sub oras!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mai departe,  era vorba ca statul va subventiona cresterea  pretului la energie &#8211; lucru care e de cacat ca principiu, as fi de acord sa se plafoneze, gen statul impune un pret la curent, daca nu se poate respecta si furnizorii ar merge in paguba, sau trebuie sa importam mai scump &#8211; AIA E, NU SE APROBA si stingem toti becurile, pana cand gasim o solutie &#8211; dar stati linistiti ca nu se intampl\u0103 nici cum vrea mintea mea debila, nici cum zice statul.  Pentru ca sunt niste <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mediafax.ro\/social\/surpriza-din-factura-de-ce-milioane-de-romani-nu-vor-primi-celebra-compensatie-la-facturile-de-la-gaze-si-electricitate-analiza-asociatiei-energia-inteligenta-20429458\">conditii de incadrare<\/a><\/strong> si pentru ca un numar mare de romani nu au halit g\u0103lu\u0219ca cu sistemul pietei concurentiale inca, si sunt inca in sistemul reglementat, pe FUI. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De ce zic asta? Acum 1 an \u0219i mai apoi 6 luni, era nebunie pe media cu \u201dce minunat este furnizorul \u0103la nou Tinmar, pre\u021buri mici, totul online, prost s\u0103 fii s\u0103 nu te mu\u021bi la ei.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hai, ia pula, na.  Toat\u0103 lumea fugu\u021ba la ei&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"892\" height=\"757\" data-attachment-id=\"21211\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=21211#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Preturi-la-energie-Tinmar-2021-12.png\" data-orig-size=\"892,757\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Preturi-la-energie-Tinmar-2021-12\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Preturi-la-energie-Tinmar-2021-12.png\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Preturi-la-energie-Tinmar-2021-12.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-21211\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Preturi-la-energie-Tinmar-2021-12.png 892w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Preturi-la-energie-Tinmar-2021-12-480x407.png 480w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Preturi-la-energie-Tinmar-2021-12-200x170.png 200w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Preturi-la-energie-Tinmar-2021-12-768x652.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 892px) 100vw, 892px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Url\u0103torii cei mai titra\u021bi \u00een schema de furnizori din \u0103\u0219tia digitali, digi.  Curent digital, nu e din \u0103la clasic analogic, de-aia e \u0219i mai scump acuma.  \u0102stea sunt pre\u021burile pe zona mea, la orice curent, \u00een Oltenia furnizarea e pre\u021bul cel mai mare, c\u0103 doar de aia \u00eei spune Oltenia Maxima.  Am mai zis c\u0103 e ciudat c\u00e2nd te ui\u021bi c\u0103 suntem pe o magistral\u0103 de 400kV care interconecteaz\u0103 Rom\u00e2nia cu Bulgaria \u0219i primim curent de pe Olt, de la Craiova \u0219i din \u0103la bunul nuclear de la Kozloduy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Da&#8217; se \u0219i fur\u0103 p-aici pe la noi&#8230;. aia e. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"607\" data-attachment-id=\"21212\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=21212#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Digi-tarife-furnizare-oltenia-2021.png\" data-orig-size=\"768,607\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Digi-tarife-furnizare-oltenia-2021\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Digi-tarife-furnizare-oltenia-2021.png\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Digi-tarife-furnizare-oltenia-2021.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-21212\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Digi-tarife-furnizare-oltenia-2021.png 768w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Digi-tarife-furnizare-oltenia-2021-480x379.png 480w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Digi-tarife-furnizare-oltenia-2021-200x158.png 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Acestea fiind spuse, eu sunt pe FUI la CEZ. Voiam s\u0103 m\u0103 mut dar n-am avut timp, tata a zis c\u0103 el nu face niciun contract, etc. Oricum consum pu\u021bin la la \u021bar\u0103 \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. Nu ca \u00een UK  cate 700KWh pe luna plm. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>C\u00e2nd am cump\u0103rat casa, a f\u0103cut tata contractul \u00een numele nostru \u0219i a f\u0103cut  ceva contract CEZ Verde &#8211; nu \u0219tiu de ce, eu voiam contract CEZ c\u0103rbuni, sau ceva de genul. Destroy this fucking planet already. \u0218i pre\u021bul curent este acesta: 0.86 lei\/ kwh. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"898\" height=\"492\" data-attachment-id=\"21213\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=21213#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image-3.png\" data-orig-size=\"898,492\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image-3.png\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image-3.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-21213\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image-3.png 898w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image-3-480x263.png 480w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image-3-200x110.png 200w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/image-3-768x421.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 898px) 100vw, 898px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u0103rin\u021bii sunt pe contractul \u0103la de care ziceam , implicit, n-au semnat vreodat\u0103 ceva . Se nume\u0219te \u201d<strong>Pret final pt SU<\/strong>\u201d (Pret final pentru clientii care beneficiaza de Serviciu Universal). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pentru asta el pl\u0103te\u0219te mai scump &#8211; hehe, cu 2 bani pe kwh. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"877\" height=\"496\" data-attachment-id=\"21214\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=21214#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/CEZ-2021-pret-final-SU.png\" data-orig-size=\"877,496\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"CEZ-2021-pret-final-SU\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/CEZ-2021-pret-final-SU.png\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/CEZ-2021-pret-final-SU.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-21214\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/CEZ-2021-pret-final-SU.png 877w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/CEZ-2021-pret-final-SU-480x271.png 480w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/CEZ-2021-pret-final-SU-200x113.png 200w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/CEZ-2021-pret-final-SU-768x434.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 877px) 100vw, 877px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Energia verde aparent e mai ieftin\u0103. Este, plm, \u0219i \u0219tiu eu de ce, c\u0103 se c\u0103pu\u0219eaz\u0103 verzii \u0103\u0219tia. \u0218tiu c\u0103 \u00een mintea voastr\u0103 \u0103\u0219tia sunt \u0103ia c\u0103rora le pl\u0103te\u0219te statul certficiate verzi ca ajutoare, dar nu e a\u0219a. Voi le pl\u0103ti\u021bi direct din consum, uite-le \u00een pula mea pe factur\u0103. Statul doar a f\u0103cut un sistem defect prin care s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i bat\u0103 joc de certificatele \u0103stea ( poate am s\u0103 revin \u00eentr-o edi\u021bie ulterioar\u0103 dup\u0103 ce am s\u0103 fac un script de exploit la licita\u021biile \u0103lora &#8211; nu m\u0103 \u00eenjura\u021bi, fac deja al\u021bii asta \u0219i e doar un fel de keeping up with the Joneses )<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Trec\u00e2nd peste asta, presupun c\u0103 observa\u021bi muia cu \u201efurnizorii digitali ai pizdii\u201d &#8211; \u0103\u0219tia nu au capacit\u0103\u021bi proprii de produc\u021bie, nici contracte mari, nici putere de negociere, a\u0219a c\u0103 fanii lor iau pula acum, dar nu-i bai, c\u0103 au pl\u0103tit un pic mai pu\u021bin c\u00e2nd era curentul ieftin, ca s\u0103 pl\u0103teasc\u0103 acum mai mult, c\u00e2nd e ceva mai scump. C\u0103 a\u0219a se face business-ul. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Singurele ve\u0219ti bune de pe c\u00e2mpul electromagnetic sunt dou\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Uniunea European\u0103 a v\u0103zut c\u0103 e groas\u0103 \u0219i lung\u0103 ca aia de cal, cu energia, a\u0219a c\u0103 acuma <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mediafax.ro\/economic\/o-decizie-care-ar-putea-marca-viitorul-energetic-al-romaniei-energia-nucleara-va-fi-considerata-energie-verde-iar-gazul-energie-de-tranzitie-20429325\">discut\u0103<\/a><\/strong> s\u0103 \u201dfac\u0103\u201d energia nuclear\u0103 energie verde. Adic\u0103 o conven\u021bie. O s\u0103-i spunem c\u0103 e verde de-acum \u00eencolo, e verde  -d\u0103-le \u00een pula mea de radia\u021bii c\u0103 \u0219i-a\u0219a murim de frig. Dac\u0103 a\u0219a, poate se mi\u0219c\u0103 \u0219i romulanii un pic mai cu talent cu reactoarele \u0103lea. Poate. <\/li><li>Num\u0103rul prosumatorilor din Oltenia cre\u0219te vertiginos, zic \u0103\u0219tia de la <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zf.ro\/companii\/oltenia-noua-capitala-a-prosumatorilor-care-sunt-regiunile-care-20430150\">ZF.<\/a>  Din c\u00e2teva motive simple. Am zis c\u0103 curentul p-aici e cel mai scump din Rom\u00e2nia, nu zici c\u0103 avem hidrocentrale pe Olt si Complexul Energetic Oltenia. Un alt motiv e c\u0103 a\u0219a sunt oltenii, zg\u00e2rci\u021bi. Ce m\u0103, \u00eemi iei bani mul\u021bi pe curent, las\u0103 c\u0103 \u00eemi fac eu acas\u0103 \u00een cazan \u0219i \u00ee\u021bi dau \u021bie pula, mai ales dac\u0103 e pe subven\u021bii.  \u0218i ar mai fi motivul \u0103la practic, c\u0103 \u00een Oltenina s-a cam f\u0103cut soarele anul \u0103sta \u0219i se prevede c\u0103 \u0219i la anu&#8217;.  E ok, la anu&#8217; cred c\u0103 fac \u0219i eu ceva pe tem\u0103.  Tre&#8217; s\u0103 vorbesc cu tata despre asta. <\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trage la muie clien\u021bilor ei, exact a\u0219a cum era de a\u0219teptat. 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