{"id":21506,"date":"2022-02-22T09:13:01","date_gmt":"2022-02-22T09:13:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=21506"},"modified":"2022-03-09T07:46:09","modified_gmt":"2022-03-09T07:46:09","slug":"nimanui-nu-i-pasa-de-luhansk-si-donetsk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=21506","title":{"rendered":"Nim\u0103nui nu-i pas\u0103 de Luhansk \u0219i Donetsk"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n\n<p>Din p\u0103cate, c\u0103 a\u0219a, ceea ce face Putin pare justificat.  Nu sunt pro Rusia nici pro Putin , nu c\u0103 i-ar p\u0103sa cuiva. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0102ia din Luhansk \u0219i Donetsk vor s\u0103 se separe ( m\u0103car o parte din popula\u021bia de acolo). Ucraina,  \u021bar\u0103 ce se pretinde suvern\u0103 nu e de acord \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i revendic\u0103 teritoriile sub principiul unit\u0103\u021bii na\u021bionale \u0219i al indiviziunii teritoriale, iar Putin le recunoa\u0219te \u0103lora dreptul de autodeterminare bazat pe criterii na\u021bionaliste, c\u0103-s la origine ru\u0219i c\u0103 plm. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0218i trimite trupe de \u201dmen\u021binere a p\u0103cii\u201d. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nim\u0103nui nu pare s\u0103-i pese de popula\u021bia de acolo, evident.  \u0102ia sunt ni\u0219te oameni \u0219i-s convins c\u0103 unii vor s\u0103 fie parte din Ucraina, al\u021bii din Rusia, al\u021bii poate independen\u021bi, din diferite motive. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dar sunt foarte sigur c\u0103 niciunii nu vor s\u0103 fie bombarda\u021bi sigur-sigur, dec\u00e2t s\u0103 fie bombarda\u021bi \u0219i uci\u0219i prefer\u0103 s\u0103 fie repuplic\u0103 independent\u0103, orice ar \u00eensemna asta, c\u0103 \u0219i independen\u021ba asta are costuri. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>NATO, Europa, SUA, c\u00e2t \u0219i ONU n-au pus niciun moment problema autodetermin\u0103rii, care e un principiu de drept interna\u021bional recunoscut. Evident e conflictual, c\u0103 Ucraina se autodetermin\u0103 cu teritoriul \u0103la cu tot, iar o parte din \u0103ia se pretind afar\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>O solu\u021bie care ia \u00een considerare popula\u021bia ar fi ca NATO\/ONU&#8230; s\u0103 intervin\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103 cear\u0103 un referendum c\u00e2t se poate de democratic \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 fie cu presiuni, c\u0103  absolut nu se poate niciodat\u0103.  Iar \u00een sensul \u0103sta ar trebui s\u0103 li se permit\u0103 \u0103lora ( din regiunile separatiste) s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i organizeze EI referendumul cu observatori din Ucraina \u0219i din Rusia ca state direct interesate, c\u00e2t \u0219i de observatori interna\u021bionali. Iar men\u021binerea p\u0103cii s\u0103 se fac\u0103 cu trupe ONU ( c\u0103 \u0219i-a\u0219a \u0103ia iau bani degeaba) care nu apar\u021bin de state interesate politic, adic\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 trupe\u021bi ru\u0219i, ucrainieni sau din state NATO.  Rusia \u00ee\u0219i mut\u0103 armata, ucrainienii pe a lor, \u0103ia \u00ee\u0219i \u021bin referendumul, dac\u0103 iese c\u0103 vor s\u0103 se separe \u00eei las\u0103 dracului to\u021bi \u00een pace \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i negociaz\u0103 ei singuri pe urm\u0103 dac\u0103 vor trupe ruse\u0219ti pe teritoriul lor &#8211; poate vor, poate nu vor \u0219i ru\u0219ii \u00eei fac s\u0103 vrea -&gt; c\u00e2nd e\u0219ti mic \u0219i vrei independen\u021b\u0103, plm, chestii se mai \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Evident c\u0103 sunt interese politice la mijloc \u0219i nici nu se pune problema \u00een felul \u0103sta. Dar \u00een felul \u0103sta Putin joac\u0103 cartea salvatorului, pentru c\u0103 oric\u00e2t nu vrea nimeni s\u0103 aud\u0103 cet\u0103\u021benii \u0103ia sunt \u00eentr-un r\u0103zboi \u0219i risc\u0103 s\u0103 fie uci\u0219i, \u0219i dec\u00e2t s\u0103 fie bombarda\u021bi \u0219i dintr-o parte \u0219i din alta , e limpede c\u0103 vor t\u0103cea, mai bine, \u0219i vor \u00eenghi\u021bi trupele de \u201dmen\u021binere a p\u0103cii\u201d trimise de ru\u0219i.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Din p\u0103cate, c\u0103 a\u0219a, ceea ce face Putin pare justificat. 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