

{"id":23101,"date":"2022-09-20T01:46:00","date_gmt":"2022-09-20T00:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=23101"},"modified":"2022-09-20T07:56:07","modified_gmt":"2022-09-20T06:56:07","slug":"problema-abuzurilor-sexuale-in-randul-bisericii-e-ca-se-petrec-in-biserica","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=23101","title":{"rendered":"Problema abuzurilor sexuale \u00een r\u00e2ndul bisericii e c\u0103 se petrec \u00ceN biseric\u0103"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n\n<p>Am citit articolul <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gandul.ro\/actualitate\/stenograme-uluitoare-parintele-visarion-alexa-catre-enoriasa-care-il-acuza-de-agresiune-te-deranjeaza-ca-te-am-atins-19842514\">\u0103sta<\/a>.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aparent, popa recunoa\u0219te un s\u00e2mbure de desfr\u00e2nare, care cre\u0219tea \u00eenspre preacurvie, \u0219i c-a apucat-o pe c\u0103ile p\u0103c\u0103toase care se \u00eenfund\u0103, invariabil, \u00een cur sau \u00een pizd\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu-i mare lucru de dezb\u0103tut cu privire la viciile, sau sl\u0103biciunile profesionale ale popilor de orice religie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Problema apare la rolul \u0219i calificarea popii, dimpreun\u0103 cu circumstan\u021bele \u00een care se produc abuzurile \u0103stea care mereu \u00eel pun pe pop\u0103 \u00een pozi\u021bia de pr\u0103d\u0103tor sexual, c\u0103 aia e. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> Dac\u0103 am fi auzit c\u0103 astea s-au \u00eent\u00e2mplat acas\u0103 la victim\u0103, la preot, sau \u00een vreun stabiliment p\u0103c\u0103tos, am fi concluzionat doar activitatea extrasportiv\u0103 depravant\u0103 care-l descalific\u0103 de la a fi preot \u0219i a da sfaturi spirituale \u0219i probabil observa\u021bia  \u201d<em>&nbsp;Totodat\u0103, suspectul a ar\u0103tat c\u0103 s-a l\u0103sat ispitit.<\/em>\u201d ar fi  redat cu o oarecare aproxima\u021bie \u0219i poate  suficien\u021b\u0103 cele \u00eent\u00e2mplate. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Din textul \u0103sta de mai jos se cam vede c\u0103 popa, neav\u00e2nd musai o educa\u021bie elevat\u0103 \u0219i \u00een domeniul rela\u021biilor mirene, n-a \u00een\u021beles  c\u0103 era \u00een pozi\u021bia de <em>friendzoned <\/em>\u0219i nu prea po\u021bi s\u0103 ie\u0219i onorabil cu pula \u00eenainte dintr-o asftfel de rela\u021bie, practic, dac\u0103 nu-\u021bi vrei tot timpul liber ocupat, c\u0103 poate mai ai treab\u0103 \u0219i cu alte enoria\u0219e, cam trebuie s\u0103 te distan\u021bezi cu o abordare mai formal\u0103 \u00eentru alungarea ispitei.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>D\u00e2nsa comunica aproape non-stop, noaptea, ziua cu p\u0103rintele \u015fi \u00een aceast\u0103 rela\u0163ie, pe fondul acelei prietenii \u015fi abord\u0103ri personale, a intervenit \u015fi acest eveniment, incident din aprilie 2022.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Sigur, asta poate nu ajut\u0103 \u00een vreun fel victima, dar m\u0103car nu te pune \u00een pozi\u021bia de pr\u0103d\u0103tor, sau pr\u0103duitor sexual, nu \u0219tiu cum e la mod\u0103 acum. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong> Dar. Situa\u021bia asta era de \u00een\u021beles dac\u0103 se \u00eent\u00e2mpla \u00eentr-unul din cadrele enun\u021bate mai sus, sau oricum nu \u00een biseric\u0103, \u00een exerci\u021biul disfunc\u021biunii, fix la finalul tainei ( o s\u0103-i spun actului) spovedaniei.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Preotul duhovnic( spovedangiu e un cuv\u00e2nt mai bun, dac\u0103 vorbim de vicii , sau p\u0103cate) are rol de psiholog \u0219i poate fi mai util, sau mai pu\u021bin util, mai bun sau mai r\u0103u la asta.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Psihologii acredita\u021bi au s\u0103 puf\u0103ie pe nas c\u0103 ei au \u0219coli \u00eenainte \u0219i multe studii axate pe \u0219arlatania de a exploata mizeria din sufletele oamenilor \u00eenspre profit, eu o sa m\u0103 limitez la a nu avea p\u0103reri la care-i mai bun la treaba asta, ci doar la a remarca c\u0103 sunt totu\u0219i mai pu\u021bini psihologi acuza\u021bi c\u0103 \u0219i-au pr\u0103dat sexual pacien\u021bii. Nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 nu se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103, sau dac\u0103 nu exist\u0103 un mecanism sau organism de control precum biserica, sau sunt mai buni la convins pacientul<s>  victima <\/s>c\u0103 sexul e OK, elibereaz\u0103 tensiuni, neav\u00e2nd corsetul religios care tocmai de sex vrea s\u0103 te elibereze. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu o s\u0103 mut problema dintr-un stabiliment \u00een altul, e limpede c\u0103 ea este la biseric\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0218i e foarte limpede c\u0103 spovedania, nevoia de a spune cuiva lucrurile cu care nu te \u00eempaci, e un act al unui suflet vulnerabil, care te face \u0219i mai vulnerabil, iar biserica se constituie \u0219i se pretinde un cadru mai intim dec\u00e2t un cabinet psihologic, cu promisiunea unei taine \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219it\u0103 doar \u00eentre p\u0103c\u0103tos \u0219i Dumnezeu, duhovnicul av\u00e2nd doar rolul mesagerului \u0219i al unui sfetnic altruist, cu promisiunea unei judec\u0103\u021bi p\u0103rtinitoare \u0219i \u00een\u021beleg\u0103toare, promisiune pe care nu o ai musai \u00een fa\u021ba unui medic sau psiholog. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prin urmare s\u0103 agresezi sexual oameni care vin \u00een fa\u021ba ta defec\u021bi \u0219i vulnerabili e un comportament de pr\u0103d\u0103tor. Iar din punctul \u0103sta de vedere, \u00eentregul model e predispus la a fi un e\u0219ec de felul \u0103sta. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Preotul e el \u00eensu\u0219i nevoit s\u0103 reziste nevoilor de natur\u0103 sexual\u0103 \u0219i n-o spun cu titlu de scuz\u0103, ceea ce-l face oarecum vulnerabil, c\u0103 una e s\u0103 mergi la spovedanie la unu care e s\u0103tul de pizd\u0103, alta e s\u0103 mergi la unul care doar \u0219i-o imagineaz\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prin urmare poate dezvolta comportamente viciate iar \u00een\u0103untrul bisericii; e oarecum pe o pozi\u021bie de for\u021b\u0103 \u0219i agresiunile se \u00eent\u00e2mpla acolo c\u0103-i teritoriul lui, ceea ce e cu at\u00e2t mai r\u0103u, deoarece o persoan\u0103 n-ar trebui s\u0103 mearg\u0103 la spovedanie cu teama c\u0103 va fi futut \u0219i de preot , nu numai de dumnezeul lui, karma, sau de lege, pentru p\u0103catele s\u0103v\u00e2r\u0219ite. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Probabil c\u0103 spovedania catolic\u0103  trateaz\u0103 problema asta mai bine, impun\u00e2nd o distan\u021b\u0103 fizic\u0103 \u00eentre preot \u0219i victima sa, distan\u021b\u0103 care traseaz\u0103 ni\u0219te limite \u0219i impune un drum clar de parcurs c\u0103tre p\u0103cat \u0219i infrac\u021biune.  Leg\u0103tura spiritual\u0103 tainic\u0103 se poate p\u0103stra prin cuvinte, dar evolu\u021bia c\u0103tre una carnal\u0103 se poate face doar dac\u0103, fie preotul p\u0103\u0219e\u0219te \u00een cabina enoria\u0219ului, fie \u00eel convinge, ademene\u0219te pe enoria\u0219 s\u0103 vin\u0103 \u00een cabina lui.  Oricum ar fi, cel face drumul c\u0103tre intimitatea trupeasc\u0103 a celuilalt poart\u0103 responsabilitatea. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"990\" data-attachment-id=\"23102\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=23102#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/image-15.png\" data-orig-size=\"1280,990\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-15\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/image-15.png\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/image-15.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23102\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/image-15.png 1280w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/image-15-480x371.png 480w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/image-15-200x155.png 200w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/image-15-768x594.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen spovedania ortodox\u0103 enoria\u0219ul e \u00een genunchi dinaintea preotului.  Este \u201d\u00een m\u00e2na preotului\u201d, voin\u021ba sa este oricum subordonat\u0103 voin\u021bei duhovnice\u0219ti , iar \u201dspiritul\u201d vulnerabil. Este locul \u0219i timpul perfect pentru o pr\u0103duial\u0103.   <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu  e un caz rarisim \u0219i<a href=\"https:\/\/www.presasm.ro\/dupa-ce-a-spovedit-o-un-preot-s-a-culcat-cu-enoriasa-si-i-a-prins-sotul-femeia-a-explicat-de-ce\/\"> nu e \u00eentotdeauna viol<\/a>, uneori enoria\u0219ele sunt mai sigure sau mai convinse de poftele \u0219i nevoile lor trupe\u0219ti, dar tot de un comportament de tip pr\u0103d\u0103tor \u0219i victim\u0103 e vorba, chiar dac\u0103 nu \u00een sensul celui pedepsibil de lege ca viol.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0218i e bine c\u0103 se trateaz\u0103 public, \u0219i c\u0103 exist\u0103 un asemenea r\u0103spuns legal &#8211; \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103 preotul a fost arestat \/ re\u021binut preventiv pentru o perioad\u0103 scurt\u0103, pentru c\u0103 indiferent de natura actelor petrecute acolo, din punctul de vedere al acuza\u021biei de agresiune sexual\u0103 ( c\u0103 poate \u0219i ea a vrut, c\u0103 ispit\u0103, sau alte elemente care atenueaza culpa penal\u0103) r\u0103m\u00e2ne aspectul de pr\u0103d\u0103tor-victim\u0103, care trebuie \u00eempiedicat imediat. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Orice anchet\u0103 independent\u0103 ar face biserica \u0219i oric\u00e2\u021bi preo\u021bi ar \u00eendep\u0103rta din biseric\u0103 post factum, taina spovedaniei are gre\u0219eli de proiectare \u0219i predispune la comportament pr\u0103d\u0103tor \u0219i abuzuri. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rela\u021bia cu preotul, \u00een timpul spovedaniei, nu trebuie s\u0103 fie de subordonare, de\u0219i jocul este unul \u00een care preotul personific\u0103 Sf\u00e2ntul Duh \u0219i se substituie cuv\u00e2ntului lui Dumnezeu, personificarea trebuie s\u0103 evite reprezenta\u021bia fizic\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Spovedania trebuie s\u0103 fie despre cuv\u00e2nt, nu despre trup. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Am citit articolul \u0103sta. 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