{"id":23996,"date":"2023-02-03T08:23:00","date_gmt":"2023-02-03T08:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=23996"},"modified":"2023-01-30T21:32:51","modified_gmt":"2023-01-30T21:32:51","slug":"putin-vs-the-west","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=23996","title":{"rendered":"Putin vs. the West"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n\n<p>E documentarul asta f\u0103cut de BBC \u0219i mi-a atras ini\u021bial aten\u021bia c\u0103 am v\u0103zut o \u0219tire de can-can \u00een care zice Boris Johnson c\u0103 l-a amenin\u021bat Putin c\u0103-i trage nucleara la minut dac\u0103 se sup\u0103r\u0103.  Nu m\u0103 intreseaz\u0103 asta, e ceva ce te-ai a\u0219tepta de la Putin, but eram interesat s\u0103 v\u0103d dac\u0103 mai aflu ceva nou de la \u0103\u0219tia. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen mare, \u0219tiam treaba cu Ucraina din 2014\/15 &#8211; de c\u00e2nd luam \u00een calcul pe bune s\u0103 plec cu tot cu familie \u00een Fran\u021ba ca tot omul cu b\u0103nuieli \u0219i \u00een principiu, \u00een mare n-am g\u0103sit nimic \u00een plus \u00een documentar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0218tiam  deja tot ce apare acolo, c\u0103 ru\u0219ii sunt \u0103ia r\u0103i \u00een majoritatea scenariilor \u0219i \u00een absolut cium\u0103 \u00een orice proiec\u021bie de alian\u021b\u00ee \u0219i prietenie, c\u0103  nici vestul nu sunt \u0103ia buni, dar mai pu\u021bin r\u0103i dec\u00e2t ru\u0219ii. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0218tiam cum a jucat Putin , c\u0103 am citit \u0219i eu \u0219i v\u0103zut \u00een ultimii 10 ani. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cens\u0103 c\u00e2teva detalii nu le-am con\u0219tientizat niciodat\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Faptul c\u0103 \u00eenainte de acordul de la Minsk Ucraina era \u00een c\u0103cat comparabil \u0219i cu momentul invaziei, \u00ee\u0219i cam luau b\u0103taie pe front \u0219i erau \u00een pericol s\u0103 nu se poat\u0103 ap\u0103ra deloc, dac\u0103 avea Putin poft\u0103 s\u0103-i invadeze. Noroc c\u0103 nu, fie pentru c\u0103 era un pic \u00een \u0219ah cu Syria, fie nu era \u00eenc\u0103 preg\u0103tit pentru o invazie la scar\u0103 larg\u0103. Interviul cu Poro\u0219enco \u0219i c\u021bteva video-uri pe care nu le-am prins, sau nu le-am prins \u00een contextul pe care nu-l \u0219tiam la ora aia sunt cheie.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ucrainienii erau la vremea aia mai c\u0103ca\u021bi pe ei dec\u00e2t acum , se vede din discursul lui la \u00eent\u00e2lnirea cu Trump de dup\u0103 ce a c\u00e2\u0219tigat Trump alegerile c\u0103 era \u0219i atunci disperat \u0219i tr\u0103gea cu din\u021bii s\u0103-i dea \u0219i lui javelinele pizdii. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ce mi se pare amuzant e c\u0103 singurul care a \u00een\u021beles cum se trateaz\u0103 cu Putin a fost Trump. \u0218tiam faza c\u00e2nd US s-a retras din INF pentru c\u0103 Rusia oricum se pi\u0219a pe el de mai bine de 10 ani, dar nu \u0219tiam c\u0103 Trump \u0219i-a trimis aghiotan\u021bii s\u0103 discute cu Putin \u00eenc\u0103lc\u0103rile lor, timp \u00een care a declarat la pres\u0103 \u201dio-mi bag pula, m\u0103 retrag, hai muie!Lua\u021bi \u0219i asculta\u021bii-i pe ru\u0219i cum neag\u0103 ei toate dovezile, ca de obicei \u0219i o fac pe niznaiu&#8217; c\u0103 mie mi se rupe pula.\u201d Lol. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anterior  po\u021bi s\u0103 vezi cum Putin i-a jumulit ca pe g\u0103ini \u0219i pe Olaba \u0219i pe Cameron &#8211; care probabil a fost cel mai bun prim ministru britanic din ultimii 30 de ani, dar a avut \u0219i el limitele lui. Iar cu Hollande \u0219i cu Merkel pur \u0219i simplu a \u0219ters pe jos &#8211; e amuzant c\u0103 \u00een mintea lui Hollande crede c\u0103 francezii au negociat, ei au \u00eencercat strategii, au pula mea. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Amuzant e problema Vestului , inclusiv \u00een privin\u021ba a ceea ce vor s\u0103 ob\u021bin\u0103 cu Rusia, e aia pe care le-a zis-o Putin de mai multe ori, cu privire la ac\u021biunile vestului de implicare \u00een conflicte interne \u0219i schimbare de regimuri: Ave\u021bi pe cineva? \u00cel da\u021bi pe \u0103sta jos \u0219i pe cine pune\u021bi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aia e \u0219i acum. Putin \u0219tie c\u0103 Vestul n-are pe nimeni \u00een locul lui, c\u0103 a\u0219a lucreaz\u0103 vestul, \u00eenl\u0103tur\u0103 un dezechilibru puternic \u0219i injust \u0219i sper\u0103 ca for\u021bele de acolo s\u0103 se balanseze singure \u0219i s\u0103 se ajung\u0103 la un compromis care m\u0103car s\u0103 tind\u0103 spre civiliza\u021bie. A mers \u00een \u021b\u0103ri cu apetit pentru civilza\u021bie . A mers ca pula \u00een Irak, Afghanistan, Libia&#8230; animalele se poart\u0103 ca animalele. La treaba asta are dreptate Putin. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E amuzant\u0103 povestea cu avionul rusesc dobor\u00e2t de Turcia \u00een perioada c\u00e2nd ru\u0219ii bombardau ISIS ( \u0219i opozi\u021bia lui Assad mai cu seam\u0103) \u00een Siria, nu at\u00e2t situa\u021bia pe care o \u0219tim to\u021bi, c\u00e2t uimirea turcului care poveste\u0219te reac\u021bia statelor baltice  de \u201dbravo, i-ai tras-o, hai c\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg \u0219i pro\u0219tii \u0103\u0219tia cum se trateaz\u0103 cu Russia, versus prude\u021ba diplomatic\u0103 a vestului\u201d &#8211; din care a ie\u0219it ce-a ie\u0219it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Se vede at\u00e2t de transparent vestul ca o ga\u0219c\u0103 de vis\u0103tori \u00een delir. Plm. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>E documentarul asta f\u0103cut de BBC \u0219i mi-a atras ini\u021bial aten\u021bia c\u0103 am v\u0103zut o \u0219tire de can-can \u00een care zice Boris Johnson c\u0103 l-a&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":7142,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[170],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-23996","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politice"],"views":1006,"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/redplag.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Eq23-6f2","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23996","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=23996"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23996\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":24002,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23996\/revisions\/24002"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/7142"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=23996"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=23996"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=23996"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}