{"id":24664,"date":"2023-05-18T20:13:37","date_gmt":"2023-05-18T19:13:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=24664"},"modified":"2023-05-19T07:33:12","modified_gmt":"2023-05-19T06:33:12","slug":"din-reality-show-ul-cu-aer-medieval-nasteri-la-domiciliu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=24664","title":{"rendered":"Din reality show-ul cu aer medieval \u201dna\u0219teri la domiciliu\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"
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M\u0103 amuz\u0103 \u0219i \u0219tirea <\/a>\u0219i discu\u021bii. C\u0103 de ce , c\u0103 pu\u0219c\u0103rie pentru p\u0103rin\u021bi \u0219i complici \u0219i se vorbe\u0219te de \u201dpremeditare\u201d \u00een interviuri pe canale media. Adic\u0103 infrac\u021biune, coaie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu \u00eencurajez pe nimeni s\u0103 nasc\u0103 acas\u0103, sau s\u0103 nu o fac\u0103, neav\u00e2nd pizd\u0103 \u0219i nepurt\u00e2nd copii, nu am o p\u0103rere despre unde e mai bine s\u0103 na\u0219ti \u0219i nici n-o s\u0103 \u00eencerc s\u0103 am una, imagin\u00e2ndu-mi unde mi-ar pl\u0103cea mie s\u0103 nasc. Nic\u0103ieri.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar \u00eenc\u0103 este un drept s\u0103 na\u0219ti unde vrea pizda ta, cu precizarea c\u0103 dreptul \u0103sta ar putea deveni incompatibil cu via\u021ba \u00een anume circumstan\u021be. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu comentez deciziile familiilor \u00een cauz\u0103, iar calitatea deciziilor lor e limpede din rezultate: \u00eentr-un caz mama a murit, \u00een al doilea caz a ajuns la urgen\u021be. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00centrebarea mai corect\u0103 e de ce alege cineva s\u0103 nasc\u0103 acas\u0103 \u0219i \u00een ce condi\u021bii decizia de a na\u0219te acas\u0103 e chestionabil\u0103?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Organiza\u021bia Mondial\u0103 a S\u0103n\u0103t\u0103\u021bii <\/a>zice c\u0103 dac\u0103 ai o sarcin\u0103 normal\u0103 po\u021bi s\u0103 alegi s\u0103 na\u0219ti acas\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103 s\u0103 na\u0219ti este, \u00een general, sigur, \u00een orice loc vrei s\u0103 na\u0219ti. Suntem 8 miliarde totu\u0219i, dar, pe de alt\u0103 parte, OMS a zis \u0219i c\u0103 e OK s\u0103 nu bloc\u0103m China, c\u0103 COVIDUL \u00eenc\u0103 nu e o pandemie. C\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u0218i listeaz\u0103 ei ni\u0219te avantaje pe care nu le comentez la persoana \u00eent\u00e2i, c\u0103, din nou, nu le pot aprecia \u00een cuno\u0219tin\u021b\u0103 de cauz\u0103. Dar pe unele le voi comenta oricum, principial \u0219i un pic anecdotic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

-cadrul e mai familiar, te-ai putea sim\u021bi mai relaxat acas\u0103 la tine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

OK.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

-nu e nevoie s\u0103 \u00eentrerupi munca ca s\u0103 mergi la spital<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen general, femeile, au nevoie de concediu de la munc\u0103 cu o perioada mai \u00eenainte de na\u0219tere, \u00een ideea \u00een care nu mai facem copii la num\u0103r, care ies buni bine, care nu, mor ei oricum de foame. M\u0103 rog, \u00een lumea civilizat\u0103 – nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 include Statele Unite, de ex<\/em>emplu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So\u021bia \u0219tiu c\u0103 a avut concediu. Mama a avut. \u00centr-o vreme se purta, in altele nu prea, c\u0103 tot mama la al\u021bi doi fra\u021bi gemeni de dinaintea mea n-a avut concediu medical, c\u0103 era prea scurt post natalul \u0219i a plecat din fabric\u0103 direct la spital s\u0103 nasc\u0103 spontan, s\u0103 aib\u0103 mai mult post natal s\u0103 ingrijeasc\u0103 copiii. N\u0103scu\u021bi cu o lun\u0103 mai devreme de termen, din motive de condi\u021bii de munc\u0103. S-a dovedit c\u0103 n-a fost nevoie. Au murit fra\u021bii \u0103ia, \u00eentr-o conjunctur\u0103 mai complicat\u0103, pe care n-o s-o detaliez, a\u0219 putea spune c\u0103 mama a avut succes la na\u0219teri de 66% , la mortalitate infantil\u0103, 50% din copii i-au tr\u0103it p\u00e2n\u0103 acum; un scor bun pentru Africa, sau Rom\u00e2nia anilor ’70-80, m\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc. Ce bine era pe vremea lui Cea\u0219c\u0103. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zic asta c\u0103, \u00een general, s-a dovedit c\u0103 concediul \u0103la prenatal nu e a\u0219a de fantezie, chiar e util, doar c\u0103, ce s\u0103 vezi, \u00een unele locuri nu este un drept. Nu zic c\u0103 ar trebui sau nu s\u0103 fie. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

– n-ai nevoie s\u0103-\u021bi la\u0219i ceilal\u021bi copii singuri, dac\u0103 mai ai al\u021bii<\/p>\n\n\n\n

ok..?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

– nu trebuie s\u0103 te despar\u021bi de partener pe perioada na\u0219terii <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Cum ar veni s\u0103 nu fi ( mori) singur\u0103. S\u0103 aib\u0103 cine s\u0103-\u021bi \u021bin\u0103 lum\u00e2narea, sau s\u0103 le\u0219ine l\u00e2ng\u0103 tine. Glumesc, dar ca s\u0103 continui pe tonul \u0103sta, dac\u0103 la spital un anume so\u021b s-ar putea fofila de eventuala cerere de a asista la na\u0219tere, cum a facut prieten pe care nu \u0219tiu cum m\u0103 cheam\u0103, dac\u0103 se decide s\u0103 nasc\u0103 acas\u0103 ai belit-o, n-ai unde s\u0103 te ascunzi. Eu a\u0219 zice c\u0103 plec la lucru, dar munceam de-acas\u0103, iar c\u00e2nd am avut primul copil, i-am zis lu’ frate-meu s\u0103 duc\u0103 el so\u021bia la spital, c\u0103 eu sunt de serviciu, cplm. <\/em>#truehero<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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-probabilitatea mai mic\u0103 s\u0103 ai nevoie de moa\u0219\u0103<\/p>\n\n\n\n

asta \u021bine de minimizarea consumului de resurse. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

-probabilitatea mai mic\u0103 de interven\u021bii cu cu forceps sau ventuz\u0103<\/p>\n\n\n\n

ca s\u0103 fie mai clar, asta se refer\u0103 la faptul c\u0103 e mai probabil ca la spital s\u0103 nu stea moa\u0219ele , eventualul medic dup\u0103 tine p\u00e2n\u0103 \u021bi se dilat\u0103 pizda destul s\u0103 scoat\u0103 \u0103la micu capul pe acolo, c\u0103 mai au \u0219i alte na\u0219teri de livrat, \u0219p\u0103gi de luat, taie \u0219i ei un pic de restul bag\u0103 forcepsul sau ventuza \u0219i \u00eel scot mai repede, nu a\u0219teapt\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 vrea s\u0103 ias\u0103 singur, mai ales c\u0103 sunt unii c\u0103rora nu le place lumea \u00een care-s for\u021ba\u021bi s\u0103 ias\u0103. Iar \u0103stea au \u0219i efecte secundare. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Partea cealalt\u0103 a monedei e c\u0103 dac\u0103 na\u0219ti acas\u0103 \u0219i AI NEVOIE de forceps sau ventuz\u0103, s-ar putea s\u0103 mori<\/em>\/moar\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tot \u00een articolul amuzant se vorbe\u0219te despre un studiu OMS care arat\u0103 c\u0103 num\u0103rul de na\u0219teri acas\u0103 a crescut. \u00cen general, \u00een \u021b\u0103ri civilizate, unde \u0219i personalul de specialitate vine \u0219i te asist\u0103 acas\u0103. Te po\u021bi \u00eentreba de ce \u0219i cine na\u0219te acas\u0103. A\u0219 crede c\u0103 cine are condi\u021bii mai bune acas\u0103 dec\u00e2t la spital.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Asta o dat\u0103 \u0219i deschide o \u00eentreag\u0103 discu\u021bie despre CARE SUNT CONDI\u021aIILE DE LA SPITAL DIN ROM\u00c2NIA?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A doua oar\u0103, treaba cu personalul medical acas\u0103. \u00cen Rom\u00e2nia e interzis <\/strong>oric\u0103rui personal medical s\u0103 te asiste acas\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

De unde, \u00eenainte de a acuza familiile, trebuie acuzat statul rom\u00e2n de complicitate. Desigur, \u0219paga se poate lua doar \u00een institu\u021biile acreditate, unde se poate asigura un cadru corect de distribu\u021bie pe linie ierarhic\u0103, nu se poate a\u0219a oriunde. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Olanda e una din \u021b\u0103rile unde na\u0219terea acasa a devenit foarte popular\u0103 \u00een ultimii ani. Fac de dinainte precizarea c\u0103 olandezii sunt unii din cei mai zg\u00e2rci\u021bi oameni de planeta asta. \u0218i cam stoici a\u0219a. Din interac\u021biunile mele cu ei \u00eei cam bat la cur pe sco\u021bieni , p\u00e2n\u0103 \u0219i pe mine. Sunt dispu\u0219i s\u0103 doarm\u0103 \u00een z\u0103pad\u0103 dac\u0103 le spui c\u0103 e gratis. Cum pula mea crezi c\u0103 au at\u00e2\u021bia bicicli\u0219ti? Cel mai u\u0219or de convertit cu o tax\u0103 mare pe locul de parcare. De ce zic asta?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Netherlands is the only European country where home births have been common for a long period. Here, the rate of home births has dropped from around 25% in 2005 to 13% in 2015, and women with uncomplicated pregnancies who choose to give birth in a hospital pay a fee of around 300 Euros<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Vrei s\u0103 na\u0219ti la spital? Tax\u0103, \u00een afar\u0103 de aia normal\u0103 pe s\u0103n\u0103tate. Nu zic c\u0103 e bine sau r\u0103u. Zic c\u0103 e un factor care influen\u021beaz\u0103 na\u0219terea acas\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103 este O POLITIC\u0102 DE STAT s\u0103 \u00eencurajeze na\u0219terile acas\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ce mai zic ei ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The increasing popularity of home births could possibly also be attributed to negative media attention toward busy hospitals with full maternity wards and staff under time pressure. Hospitals worldwide have been blamed by the World Health Organization for intervening unnecessarily in naturally progressing births, and the WHO has called for less unnecessary medical intervention for healthy pregnant women.5<\/a> Hence, the rise in home births could in some contexts perhaps be seen as a response to some health systems being under financial pressure and as a calm alternative to busy hospitals, where you have the midwife for yourself during the entire birth process. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pe rom\u00e2ne\u0219te, 2 motive. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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  1. WHO a observat \u0219i a criticat practicile spitalice\u0219ti de interven\u021bie exagerat\u0103 \u00een na\u0219terile naturale, s\u0103 se taie mai cu spor, s\u0103 mearg\u0103 treaba mai uns\u0103, c\u0103 burta spart\u0103 \u021bine pizda mai fraged\u0103, iar pizda t\u0103iat\u0103 \u0219i cusut\u0103 e la fel ca cealalt\u0103, numai bine, mai bag\u0103 dou\u0103 cus\u0103turi mai sus \u0219i iese un fel de refresh. Eu glumesc, treaba e c\u0103 au crescut ni\u0219te costuri, s-au implementat ni\u0219te proceduri care urm\u0103reau generarea de costuri \u0219i venituri pentru medici mai mult dec\u00e2t s\u0103n\u0103tatea, confortul \u0219i interesele mamei \u0219i copilului. Nu judec dac\u0103 era bine sau r\u0103u, dar \u0219ti\u021bi \u0219i voi, \u0103\u0219tia din Rom\u00e2nia, c\u0103 sunt medici ginecologi care n-au ei timp de a\u0219teptat copilul, c\u0103 ei sunt ma\u0219ini de f\u0103cut bani, orice na\u0219tere e o cezarian\u0103, c\u0103 la ei na\u0219ti cu programare, nu face un pulete nen\u0103scut planurile.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  2. Practica asta interven\u021bionist\u0103 a pus presiune pe sistemul medical \u0219i pe personal , care nu prea mai poate sus\u021bine treaba asta cum trebuie – cum ar veni a observat popula\u021bia o sc\u0103dere \u00een calitatea actului medical de le-a trecut prin cap c\u0103 nu mai bine nasc eu acas\u0103 \u0219i pl\u0103tesc o moa\u0219\u0103?<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n

    Ce mai zice studiul despre alte dou\u0103 \u021b\u0103ri unde s-au \u00eenregistrat na\u0219teri acas\u0103?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    In line with this, the use of private doulas has risen both in Denmark and in the UK during recent years.6<\/a>, 7<\/a> Both countries are experiencing financial cuts in the public health sector.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Adic\u0103 e foame de bani. Au t\u0103iat resursele alocate la s\u0103n\u0103tate, oamenii observ\u0103 probleme \u0219i caut\u0103 alternative. Cum ar fi:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

     A doula is a non-medical \u201cbirth-coach\u201d who follows a woman’s pregnancy, provides ante- and postnatal conversations and is present during birth alongside with a midwife to support the woman and try to give her the individual birth experience she wishes. In both countries, a doula costs up to around 2000 Euros.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Acuma, s\u0103 faci o cezarian\u0103 acas\u0103 , oricum ai lua-o e ceva extrem. Nu m\u0103 pot g\u00e2ndi dec\u00e2t , oare cum sunt maternit\u0103\u021bile \u00een jude\u021bul Neam\u021b?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    2013<\/a>, 2016<\/a>, 2017<\/a>, 2018<\/a>, 2021<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u00cen Rom\u00e2nia putem s\u0103 ne imagin\u0103m orice. C\u0103 e din cauz\u0103 c\u0103 femeile sunt proaste sau orice vre\u021bi voi pentru a da vina pe victime, s\u0103 nu ne atingem cumva de condi\u021biile din spitale sau pre\u021burile scumpe la privat \u0219i la \u0219pag\u0103. Dar hai s\u0103 vedem ce zic al\u021bii, unde se na\u0219te mai mult acas\u0103<\/a><\/strong>, nu la 2% ca \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. Fie vorba \u00eentre noi, la 2% vorbim de accidente \u0219i excentrici, nu de o practic\u0103 , de unde \u0219i reac\u021bia medieval\u0103 a romulanilor c\u00e2nd aud de asta. <\/p>\n\n\n\n