

{"id":24722,"date":"2023-05-23T07:32:58","date_gmt":"2023-05-23T06:32:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=24722"},"modified":"2023-05-23T12:47:00","modified_gmt":"2023-05-23T11:47:00","slug":"pensionari-mai-batrani-si-in-romania","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=24722","title":{"rendered":"Pensionari mai b\u0103tr\u00e2ni \u0219i \u00een Rom\u00e2nia"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n\n<p>\u00cen 2009 FMI cerea cre\u0219terea v\u00e2rstei de pensionare in Rom\u00e2nia , la 65 de ani . Ministerul muncii a spus un &#8220;nu&#8221; politic atunci &#8211; ce \u021b\u0103ri au fost ei, c\u0103 le-au \u00eenchis gura \u0103lora de la FMI.  O fi ie\u0219it Jeffrey Franks la pensie? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1078\" height=\"1244\" data-attachment-id=\"24719\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=24719#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-064704520281296710589583421128711.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1078,1244\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"screenshot_20230523-064704520 (1)6710589583421128711.\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-064704520281296710589583421128711.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-064704520281296710589583421128711.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-24719\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-064704520281296710589583421128711.jpg 1078w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-064704520281296710589583421128711-416x480.jpg 416w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-064704520281296710589583421128711-173x200.jpg 173w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-064704520281296710589583421128711-768x886.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1078px) 100vw, 1078px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen 2021 , c\u00e2t noi st\u0103team \u00eenchi\u0219i \u00een cas\u0103 \u0219i Rom\u00e2nia s-au angajat la PNRR , s-au aliniat europenilor s\u0103 fac\u0103 acela\u0219i lucru.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1069\" height=\"1510\" data-attachment-id=\"24720\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=24720#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-065244475281292354072685701952461.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1069,1510\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"screenshot_20230523-065244475 (1)2354072685701952461.\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-065244475281292354072685701952461.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-065244475281292354072685701952461.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-24720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-065244475281292354072685701952461.jpg 1069w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-065244475281292354072685701952461-340x480.jpg 340w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-065244475281292354072685701952461-142x200.jpg 142w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-065244475281292354072685701952461-768x1085.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1069px) 100vw, 1069px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Planul curent agreat cu uniunea european\u0103 este ca s\u0103 se creasc\u0103 v\u00e2rsta de pensionare a <strong>femeilor<\/strong> la 63 de ani p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 2030,  ( acum este la 62 de ani ) altfel, v\u00e2rsta de pensionare <strong>standard<\/strong>  a b\u0103rba\u021bilor e deja 65 de ani din 2015 , la 6 ani dup\u0103 ce ministrul muncii a zis un nu ferm propunerii FMI de a o face 65 de ani p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 2030. P\u0103i ei pl\u0103nuiser\u0103 mai devreme, ce dracului s\u0103 a\u0219tepte p\u00e2n\u0103 atunci.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Raluca \u021aurcan, spunea deun\u0103zi, c\u00e2nd era ministrul muncii c\u0103 vrea egalitate, c\u0103 \u00een PNRR s-a angajat s\u0103 creasc\u0103 \u0219i v\u00e2rsta de pensionare a femeilor la 65 de ani, p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 2035. #asada. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Eu glumesc, femeile sufer\u0103 de un pic de inegalitate oricum, la treaba asta, dar nu mai conteaz\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rom\u00e2nii cred c\u0103 sunt fenta\u021bi s\u0103 ia pozi\u021bie pe tema asta \u0219i nu ar trebui s-o fac\u0103 \u00een sensul \u0103sta , ci in altul. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unde se face de fapt alinierea este la v\u00e2rstele speciale de pensionare, acelea care afecteaz\u0103 poli\u021bi\u0219ti , militari \u0219i alte profesii cu condi\u021bii speciale, care, in prezent ies la pensie la 58 de ani \u0219i v\u00e2rsta e planificat\u0103 sa creasc\u0103 lunar, p\u00e2n\u0103 la 60 de ani in 2030 .  \u0218i cred c\u0103  vor s\u0103 \u00eei alinieze \u0219i pe \u0103\u0219tia la 65, p\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103. Nicio problem\u0103 pe urm\u0103 se face 65-ul 67 \u0219i tot a\u0219a. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pe de o parte treaba asta are sens. Tata a ie\u0219it la pensie la 52 de ani, putea s\u0103 ias\u0103 la 50 cred, dup\u0103 o via\u021b\u0103 de munca \u00een condi\u021bii speciale , <strong>cu contribu\u021bii la sistemul de pensii \u00een valoare de jum\u0103tate din salariu. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu-l invidia\u021bi , jum\u0103tate din colegii lui sunt mor\u021bi, restul cop\u021bi, el  mai mi\u0219c\u0103 . Intoxica\u021biile regulate cu produ\u0219i clorura\u021bi ( clorul \u0219i fosgenul ( alt produs pe baz\u0103 de clor ) erau &#8220;gaze de lupt\u0103&#8221; \u00eentr-o vreme ) sunt un pic mai serioase dec\u00e2t otr\u0103virea cu particule PM2.5 de care sunt avertiza\u021bi acum Bucure\u0219tenii de aplica\u021bii gen airly \u0219i care mai sunt. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dar asta a fost atunci, prin 2005. Mama , care a lucrat \u00een acelea\u0219i condi\u021bii, a ie\u0219it la pensie pe la 55 de ani, c\u0103 era mai t\u00e2n\u0103r\u0103 \u0219i v\u00e2rsta asta tot cre\u0219tea.  \u0218i condi\u021biile de munc\u0103 s-au \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021bit treptat \u0219i industria chimica a cam disp\u0103rut din Rom\u00e2nia. Cam la fel \u0219i cu celelalte industrii consumatoare de oameni, minerit, extrac\u021bii&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Au mai r\u0103mas categoriile speciale gen poli\u021bie , armat\u0103. De armat\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 vorbim frumos zilele astea, dar de poli\u021bie nu \u0219tiu ce s\u0103 zic. Lucreaz\u0103 \u00een condi\u021bii dificile. Doar unii&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Poate c\u0103 v\u00e2rsta de pensionare trebuie s\u0103 creasc\u0103 . Poate. Dar problema care ar trebui s\u0103 ne intrige e contribu\u021bia la pensie, de 25% din veniturile salariale.  Asta \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 \u00een 35 de ani de cotizare ( stagiul complet), adic\u0103 cum ar fi de la 30 la 65 de ani acuma,  reprezint\u0103 venitul pe 8.75 ani. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Suma 65 + 8.75 = 73.75 ani. Cum ar veni, contribu\u021bia la pensie sponsorizeaz\u0103 un salariu \u00eentreg p\u00e2n\u0103 la v\u00e2rsta de aproape 74 de ani \u00een Rom\u00e2nia.  V\u00e2rsta medie de via\u021b\u0103 este sub 73 de ani. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"766\" data-attachment-id=\"24721\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=24721#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-072443125281292382094716206878404.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1080,766\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"screenshot_20230523-072443125 (1)2382094716206878404.\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-072443125281292382094716206878404.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-072443125281292382094716206878404.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-24721\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-072443125281292382094716206878404.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-072443125281292382094716206878404-480x340.jpg 480w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-072443125281292382094716206878404-200x142.jpg 200w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/screenshot_20230523-072443125281292382094716206878404-768x545.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Problema este evident structura popula\u021biei. Mai pu\u021bini copii. De ce cre\u0219te v\u00e2rsta de pensionare la femei? P\u0103i ele erau responsabile cu treaba asta, ori dac\u0103 fertilitatea devine aproape egala cu a b\u0103rba\u021bilor, na, atunci \u0219i v\u00e2rsta de pensie . <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Problema e c\u0103, in general , economiile au \u00een randament. Statul rom\u00e2n propune acum economisirea prin pensii cu randament negativ. Adic\u0103 fur\u0103 bani. Pentru asta ar trebui protestat. Vre\u021bi v\u00e2rsta de pensionare &#8211; 65 de ani ?  \u00cen prezent \u00een Fran\u021ba, \u021bar\u0103 cu cele mai mici v\u00e2rste de pensionare \u0219i speran\u021b\u0103 de via\u021b\u0103 semnificativ mai mare fa\u021b\u0103 de Rom\u00e2nia are o contribu\u021bie la pensii de 15-17% ( un sistem ceva mai complex). Nu 25%. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rom\u00e2nia iar e un experiment de criz\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aici e problema aia mai mare. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bibliografie<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zf.ro\/eveniment\/fmi-cere-cresterea-varstei-de-pensionare-la-65-de-ani-inainte-de-2030-ministerul-muncii-spune-nu-5017270\">https:\/\/www.zf.ro\/eveniment\/fmi-cere-cresterea-varstei-de-pensionare-la-65-de-ani-inainte-de-2030-ministerul-muncii-spune-nu-5017270<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ec.europa.eu\/social\/main.jsp?catId=1126&amp;langId=ro&amp;intPageId=4754\">https:\/\/ec.europa.eu\/social\/main.jsp?catId=1126&amp;langId=ro&amp;intPageId=4754<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>https:\/\/www.mmuncii.ro\/j33\/images\/Documente\/MMJS\/Transparenta-decizionala\/5210-A5-.pdf&#038;ved=2ahUKEwjM2-3o4Ir_AhVHdcAKHYLZCEw4ChAWegQIAxAB&#038;usg=AOvVaw1S-R_M_gHLEGd72j28EwN8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.factual.ro\/declaratii\/raluca-turcan-despre-cresterea-varstei-de-pensionare\/\">https:\/\/www.factual.ro\/declaratii\/raluca-turcan-despre-cresterea-varstei-de-pensionare\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lege5.ro\/Gratuit\/g4ztmmzqgi\/varsta-standard-de-pensionare-pentru-militari-politisti-si-functionari-publici-cu-statut-special-din-sistemul-administratiei-penitenciare-din-domeniul-apararii-nationale-ordinii-publice-si-securitatii?dp=haytembvhe4ti\">https:\/\/lege5.ro\/Gratuit\/g4ztmmzqgi\/varsta-standard-de-pensionare-pentru-militari-politisti-si-functionari-publici-cu-statut-special-din-sistemul-administratiei-penitenciare-din-domeniul-apararii-nationale-ordinii-publice-si-securitatii?dp=haytembvhe4ti<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/infocons.ro\/stiri-scurte\/stiati-ca-speranta-de-viata-in-romania\/\">https:\/\/infocons.ro\/stiri-scurte\/stiati-ca-speranta-de-viata-in-romania\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00cen 2009 FMI cerea cre\u0219terea v\u00e2rstei de pensionare in Rom\u00e2nia , la 65 de ani . 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