

{"id":26137,"date":"2023-10-31T05:46:46","date_gmt":"2023-10-31T05:46:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=26137"},"modified":"2023-10-30T10:38:33","modified_gmt":"2023-10-30T10:38:33","slug":"anno-domini-2023-mai-conteaza-dot-ul-la-cauciucuri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=26137","title":{"rendered":"Anno domini 2023  &#8211;  mai conteaz\u0103 DOT-ul la cauciucuri?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n\n<p>C\u0103 mi-am luat eu unele, mai vechi, de aia zic. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>R\u0103spuns foarte scurt: Da, c\u0103 po\u021bi s\u0103 le cumperi mai ieftine!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>R\u0103spuns  un pic mai complet: Da, dar nu c\u0103uta s\u0103 le cumperi chiar la pre\u021b de nimic. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Normative:   \u00cen Rom\u00e2nia nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 exist\u0103 legisla\u021bie limitativ\u0103 cu privire la  data de fabrica\u021bie  a cauciucurilor v\u00e2ndute de noi  , dar se vorbeste c\u0103 Germania o anvelop\u0103 nu poate fi v\u00e2ndut\u0103 de nou\u0103 dac\u0103 are mai mult de 5 ani vechime &#8211; are \u0219i un motiv \u00een spate, c\u0103 exist\u0103 o limit\u0103 absolut\u0103 de via\u021b\u0103 de 10 ani \u0219i un cauciuc nou e recomandat s\u0103 nu fie folosit mai mult de  5-6 ani.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De fapt l<a href=\"https:\/\/www.adac.de\/rund-ums-fahrzeug\/ausstattung-technik-zubehoer\/reifen\/reifenkauf\/reifenalter\/\">egea e altfel:<\/a> La vehiculele comerciale ( camioane, astea ) &#8211; cauciucurile trebuie \u00eenlocuite dup\u0103 6 ani. Sarcini mari, condi\u021bii grele. Realitatea e ca nu cred c\u0103 ajung multe la 6 ani, dar nu \u0219tii. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>BRV ( asocia\u021bia cauciucarilor din \u021bara cu pricina ) zice c\u0103 recomand\u0103 ca un cauciuc s\u0103 fie v\u00e2ndut de nou MAXIM 3 ani \u0219i spune c\u0103 nu consider\u0103 ( asocia\u021bia aia , nu legea) un cauciuc ca fiind nou dac\u0103 are mai mult de 5 ani vechime. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Britanicii s-au luat dup\u0103 nem\u021bi \u0219i au zis c\u0103 \u0103la mai lung, de 5 ani de la n\u0103scare, e intervalul limit\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 la care po\u021bi s\u0103 vinzi o anvelop\u0103 de nou\u0103, iar  la inspec\u021bia periodic\u0103 \u00ee\u021bi iei avertisment dac\u0103 e cauciucul mai mult de 9 ani &#8211; aka e vechi s\u0103-l schimbi. Nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 te resping c\u00e2nd au cauciucurile mai vechi de 10 ani, c\u0103 n-am avut vreunul, dar \u0219tiu pe cineva care avea cauciucuri de vreo 14 ani, l-au refuzat UNII de la o vulcanizare, c\u00e2nd i-a intrat un cui, c\u0103 e prea vechi \u0219i ei refuz\u0103 s\u0103 \u00eel repare, al\u021bii l-au acceptat, la MOT nu a picat, dar na, ce pot s\u0103 spun e c\u0103 \u0219i \u00een UK se poate trece \u201dITP-ul\u201d FIX ca \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, dac\u0103 insi\u0219ti. \u0218i \u0219paga e cam la fel.  Ba , sunt mai toleran\u021bi acolo la condi\u021biile impuse ca s\u0103 treci CINSTIT. C\u0103 acolo eu am trecut doar cinstit. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Produc\u0103torii de cauciucuri recomand\u0103 s\u0103 le schimbi dup\u0103 maxim 6 ani <strong>de utilizare <\/strong>. Asta nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 mergi cu ele opinci p\u00e2n\u0103 fac 6 ani. Limita de schimbare e c\u00e2nd ajungi la 1.6mm &#8211; au caucicurile ni\u0219te markere \u0219i nu \u0219tiu ce s\u0103 zic.  Vara pe asfalt, la sarcini mici, cauciucuri de calitate \u0219i uzur\u0103 uniform\u0103 poate po\u021bi s\u0103 stai p\u00e2n\u0103 acolo.  Dar,  \u00een absolut toate situa\u021biile \u00een care am circulat p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een vecin\u0103tatea liniei \u0103lia am observat degrad\u0103ri semnificative ale performan\u021belor, fa\u021b\u0103 de starea de nou. Mai ales iarna. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Problema e c\u0103 dup\u0103 6 ani li se vede v\u00e2rsta oricum, chiar \u0219i dac\u0103 ma\u0219ina doar st\u0103 pe cauciucuri \u0219i nu ruleaz\u0103. Asta nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 la termenul \u0103sta bufnesc, ci c\u0103 se vede \u0219i se simte v\u00e2rsta.  Probabil la cauciucuri mai proaste mai devreme &#8211; depinde \u0219i de condi\u021bii. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prin urmare g\u0103sesc c\u0103 nebunia din Rom\u00e2nia  &#8211; vreau cauciucuri nou nou\u021be, cu DOT de ieri <strong>este justificat\u0103. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen sensul c\u0103, dac\u0103 clien\u021bii nu-s preocupa\u021bi v\u00e2nz\u0103torul se uit\u0103 s\u0103-\u021bi cear\u0103 acela\u0219i pre\u021b \u0219i dup\u0103 1-2-3-4-5 ani de stocaj, ceea ce nu e normal, din mai multe puncte de vedere. Dac\u0103 nu prime\u0219ti cauciucuri cu DOT de anul trecut, \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 retailerul trebuie s\u0103 v\u00e2nd\u0103 anvelopa aia cu ceva reducere, c\u0103 nu devine dec\u00e2t \u0219i mai b\u0103tr\u00e2n\u0103 \u0219i pe urm\u0103 va fi \u0219i mai greu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>A\u0219a cum este \u0218I NORMAL. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Indiferent ce zic produc\u0103torii de cauciucuri, nu e normal s\u0103 cumperi un cauciuc stocat 5 ani la pre\u021b egal cu al unuia fabricat ieri. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00centrebarea se pune &#8211;<strong> dar VREI? <\/strong>Adic\u0103 s\u0103 cumperi o anvelop\u0103 care a stat stocat\u0103 5 ani, c\u0103 \u0219tii e Rom\u00e2nia \u0219i nu \u0219tii cum a fost stocat\u0103 ( mai r\u0103u dec\u00e2t montate pe ma\u0219ina ta parcat\u0103 \u00een strad\u0103 cu o roat\u0103 urcat\u0103 doar pe jum\u0103tate pe trotuar nu a fost c\u0103 n-are cum).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Depinde c\u00e2\u021bi km faci cu anvelopa aia, la ce o folose\u0219ti \u0219i c\u00e2t\u0103 via\u021b\u0103 are. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dac\u0103 cumperi un cauciuc de 50,000 km \u0219i faci \u00een jur de 50,000km pe an , DA, de ce nu, e logic s\u0103 vrei s\u0103  cumperi unul de 5 ani, dar <strong>LA PRE\u021aUL CORECT. <\/strong> La un pre\u021b apropiat de un pre\u021b de anvelop\u0103 SH. Foarte apropiat.  C\u0103 nu crap\u0103 cauciucul \u0103la dac\u0103 face 7 ani, 5 stocat \u0219i doi pe ma\u0219in\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dac\u0103 faci \u00een zona de 10-15 mii km pe an  &#8211; NU, nu vrei. Dec\u00e2t dac\u0103 e\u0219ti s\u0103rac\/ zg\u00e2rcit, mergi \u00eencet \u0219i vrei s\u0103 ri\u0219ti un pic, tot a\u0219a pentru un chilipir. Dar a\u0219 zice c\u0103 nu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dac\u0103 faci 10k pe an vrei anvelope cu DOT de anul \u0103la, maxim anul trecut. Punct. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Eu le-am cump\u0103rat pe \u0103stea \u00een 2023 cu DOT 2021. Deci 2 ani. \u0218i ceva. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dar \u0219i pre\u021b. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"26138\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?attachment_id=26138#main\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Falken-WildPeak-A-T3WA-245-65-R17-111H-XL-DOT-2021.png\" data-orig-size=\"723,723\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Falken-WildPeak-A-T3WA-245-65-R17-111H-XL-DOT-2021\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Falken-WildPeak-A-T3WA-245-65-R17-111H-XL-DOT-2021-480x480.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Falken-WildPeak-A-T3WA-245-65-R17-111H-XL-DOT-2021.png\" src=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Falken-WildPeak-A-T3WA-245-65-R17-111H-XL-DOT-2021.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26138\" srcset=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Falken-WildPeak-A-T3WA-245-65-R17-111H-XL-DOT-2021.png 723w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Falken-WildPeak-A-T3WA-245-65-R17-111H-XL-DOT-2021-480x480.png 480w, https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Falken-WildPeak-A-T3WA-245-65-R17-111H-XL-DOT-2021-200x200.png 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Le-am v\u0103zut din var\u0103, tot ieftine, tot nu se v\u00e2nd, b\u0103nuiam c\u0103 au DOT vechi \u0219i nu au fost cump\u0103rate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Exist\u0103 un motiv oarecum subiectiv \u0219i sper s\u0103 nu existe motive obiective. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pneurile \u0103stea sunt All Terrain  &#8211; adic\u0103 s\u0103 umbli cu ele peste tot.  Sunt dar nu prea, adic\u0103 sunt un pic \u0219chioape pe offroad, sub nicio form\u0103 nu sunt la nivelul BFG TA TKO2.  Nu cred c\u0103 exist\u0103 cauciucuri cu versatilitatea aia.  Nici cu durata aia de via\u021b\u0103 &#8211; eu le \u00eenlocuiesc ( am p\u0103strat unul ca rezerv\u0103, c\u0103 rezerva avea 10 ani ), datorit\u0103 faptului c\u0103 au microfisuri de \u00eemb\u0103tr\u00e2nire \u0219i <strong> pe mine <\/strong> nu m\u0103 mul\u021bumesc urme de 5\/32 cum ar zice americanii, sau sub 4mm cum zic Europenii. \u0218i nu mai sunt la nivelul preten\u021biilor mele <a href=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=25488\">nici pe asfalt<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=23729\">nici pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 asfalt<\/a>. Deja de cam un an.  Legea ar zice c\u0103 mai merg, probabil \u00eenc\u0103 un an, dar aia nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 fi retardat. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So\u021bia \u0219i cu mine, rul\u0103m pe la 10-12k km cu ma\u0219ina asta anual.  Gumele \u0103stea nu \u021bin s\u0103 facem noi 60k km cu ele, cred, c\u0103 nu-s la fel ca BFG-urile. Dar oricum, \u021bin mai mult de 35km cred. \u00cen teorie, la borna de 6 ani de la fabrica\u021bie, vom \u00eenregistra undeva la 40-50k km &#8211; dac\u0103 mai r\u0103m\u00e2ne ceva din  ele at\u00e2ta timp.  \u00cen practic\u0103, nu cred c\u0103 mai folosim ma\u0219ina asta at\u00e2\u021bia ani \u0219i chiar dac\u0103, sunt mul\u021bumit dac\u0103 scoatem 3 ani. Nu folosesc 2 r\u00e2nduri de cauciucuri, deci sunt \u00een avantaj. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dac\u0103 schimbi gumele var\u0103 iarn\u0103 foarte probabil vrei gume cu DOT \u00eencep\u00e2nd de m\u00e2ine. <br \/>Numai bine c\u0103 le cump\u0103r eu pe \u0103la care r\u0103m\u00e2n mai mult \u00een stoc la un pre\u021b mai bun, c\u0103 la mine se uzeaz\u0103, nu \u00eemb\u0103tr\u00e2nesc st\u00e2nd. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>C\u0103 mi-am luat eu unele, mai vechi, de aia zic. R\u0103spuns foarte scurt: Da, c\u0103 po\u021bi s\u0103 le cumperi mai ieftine! 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