{"id":27715,"date":"2024-05-22T12:15:34","date_gmt":"2024-05-22T11:15:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=27715"},"modified":"2024-05-22T12:31:09","modified_gmt":"2024-05-22T11:31:09","slug":"viol-cu-acordul-victimei","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=27715","title":{"rendered":"Viol cu acordul victimei"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Este despre B\u0103lt\u0103re\u021bu fut\u0103re\u021bu, cum voiam s\u0103 \u0219i intitulez articolul,  dar zic c\u0103 indexeaz\u0103 google a\u0219a \u0219i na, s\u0103 mic\u0219orez un pic vizibilitatea scremerii cu inten\u021bie amuzant\u0103 , c\u0103 nu inten\u021bionez s\u0103 \u00eel calomniez pe om \u00een niciun fel, nici s\u0103 fac mi\u0219to de dumnealui, doar de situa\u021bie , chiar de o fi violator, \u0219i am mai mult aprecieri de principiu dec\u00e2t circumstan\u021biale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zic c\u0103 nu inten\u021bionez s\u0103 \u00eel calomniez nici dac\u0103 e violator c\u0103 dac\u0103 reu\u0219e\u0219ti s\u0103 convingi victima unui viol s\u0103 se mai fut\u0103 cu tine de c\u00e2teva ori pe urm\u0103, meri\u021bi un premiu sau ceva. Unii au probleme s\u0103 mai conving\u0103 persoana cu care au avut sex s\u0103 se mai fut\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103 o dat\u0103 chiar \u0219i dac\u0103 a fost de bun\u0103 voie, \u0219tii ce zic? Iar duduia a mai f\u0103cut de de dou\u0103 ori cu tipul.  M\u0103 \u00eentreb dac\u0103 a fost revenge sex sau ceva. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Chestia asta e de culmea violului sau ceva. Am citit \u00een G4media<\/a>.  Le pun cu cu poz\u0103 c\u0103 \u0103stea intrat \u00een analele violului, hehe. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dincolo de faptul c\u0103 pentru mine e amuzant, realizez c\u0103, \u00een principiu,  situa\u021bia este posibil\u0103, mai ales \u00een rela\u021bii. Nici m\u0103car nu o numesc mincinoas\u0103 pe duduie, iar in alte circumstan\u021be ( ajung la asta ) a\u0219 fi spus chiar “presupusa victim\u0103” – presupus\u0103 , c\u0103 nu sunt judec\u0103tor \u0219i nu \u0219tim ce s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat acolo, dar se vede ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 aici. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Problema st\u0103 la dreptul de a pretinde sanc\u021biuni \u00een condi\u021biile date, indiferent dac\u0103 s-ar prescris fapta sau nu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dreptul penal trateaz\u0103 \u0219i pedepse\u0219te infrac\u021biunile \u00een func\u021bie de inten\u021bie, de pagubele produse , de suferin\u021ba victimei \u0219i de pericolul social al faptei. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Violul are diferite defini\u021bii de la stat la stat \u00een func\u021bie de cultura local\u0103, iar \u00een Rom\u00e2nia are una din defini\u021biile mai relaxate \u0219i chit c\u0103 parte din genera\u021biile tinere pretind c\u0103 se vor emancipate ( c\u0103 dac\u0103 zic woke se interpreteaz\u0103 c-o spun peiorativ) , nu prea sunt, dac\u0103 numeri oamenii. \u0218i nici nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 fie sau nu. Dar e observabil clivajul filozofic \u00eentre genera\u021bii, \u00eentre diverse medii cu diferite valen\u021be culturale \u0219i etnice. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

“No means no” e o conven\u021bie social\u0103 \u0219i chiar \u0219i \u00een cadrul \u0103sta de referin\u021b\u0103 exist\u0103 interpret\u0103ri diferite. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dintre toate violurile cel mai mic pericol  social e reprezentat de cel \u00een cadrul rela\u021biei. Sun\u0103 ultragiant, blazat \u0219i insensibil ? Foarte bine, ai decis s\u0103 \u00ee\u021bi \u00eemp\u0103r\u021bit via\u021ba cu un violator, cei din afara rela\u021biei sunt \u00een siguran\u021b\u0103, iar \u0103sta este cel mai simplu \u0219i favorabil victimei de a o spune. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pagubele cele mai greu calculabile sunt cele dintr-o rela\u021bie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen ceea ce m\u0103 prive\u0219te, defini\u021bia principal\u0103 violului r\u0103m\u00e2ne simplu sex f\u0103r\u0103 voia ta. \u00cens\u0103 judecata \u0219i sanc\u021biunile , anume statutul juridic al violului nu e \u0219i nu are de ce s\u0103 fie b\u0103tut \u00een cuie a\u0219a absolut. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00centr-o rela\u021bie po\u021bi avea clauze cu privire la libertatea sexual\u0103 a membrilor, iar \u00een func\u021bie de asta infrac\u021biunea de viol poate fi privit\u0103 un act retributiv  sau \u00eendrept\u0103\u021bit de c\u0103tre o parte, in func\u021bie de cutumele \u0219i \u00een\u021belegerile interne. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

E ca atunci c\u00e2nd cineva \u00ee\u021bi fur\u0103 po\u0219eta cu bani. \u00centr-un caz pe strad\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103tor, \u00een alt caz este o persoan\u0103 c\u0103reia \u00eei datorezi bani. \u00cen ambele cazuri vorbim de o infrac\u021biune \u0219i un abuz, dar diferite. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pesre toate astea intervine cauza \u00eemp\u0103c\u0103rii  ” dup\u0103 viol, la 3-4 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni am f\u0103cut sex din nou”. Juridic, \u00eemp\u0103carea (art 159 codul penal ) \u00eenl\u0103tur\u0103 r\u0103spunderea penal\u0103 a inculpatului , nu \u00een toate infrac\u021biunile \u0219i din 2023 cred , art 199 alin. 2 introduce posibilitatea cercet\u0103rii penale din oficiu – pentru violen\u021ba \u00een familie, fapt care face \u00eemp\u0103carea imposibil\u0103. Asta nu se poate aplica aici, c\u0103 nu vorbim de familie \u0219i nici nu se poate sesiza instan\u021ba din oficiu cu privire la un presupus viol decurs in urm\u0103 cu ani \u00eenainte s\u0103 apar\u0103 legea ( retroactivitate ) \u0219i sunt \u0219i mai multe  hibe, dar nu le urm\u0103resc pe toate. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Unde e problema? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu e nicio problem\u0103 cu ceea ce spune doamna, in principiu, e dreptul dumneaei la a se exprima liber , p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een punctul \u00een care face acuza\u021bii cu care inten\u021bioneaz\u0103 s\u0103 sanc\u021bioneze public o persoan\u0103 care tocmai a beneficiat de ceva recunoa\u0219tere \u0219i succes – nu pot m\u0103sura eu ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 premiul primit, \u00eens\u0103 a\u0219a se traduce. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ac\u021biunea vindicativ\u0103 pleac\u0103 de la faptul c\u0103 dumneaei a suferit \u0219i a avut nevoie de terapie. Uneori  rela\u021biile se termin\u0103 a\u0219a. Uneori oamenii sunt mai slabi psihic \u0219i au nevoie s\u0103 dea bani la psihologi s\u0103 le spun\u0103 c\u0103 e OK \u0219i s\u0103 pretind\u0103 c\u0103 o s\u0103 \u00eei ajute.  \u00cen ce m\u0103sur\u0103 se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 asta, iar nu pot eu s\u0103 judec, speculez c\u0103 nu, din moment ce ajungem in situa\u021bii ca asta. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cens\u0103, in punctul \u0103sta,  victima se transform\u0103 \u00een agresor \u0219i dac\u0103 a\u0219 fi \u00een locul domnului cu pricina, primul g\u00e2nd ar fi un proces de calomnie. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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