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M-a sunat un furnizor c\u0103 \u00eemi taie serviciile de colocare la un server. Jus, c\u0103 n-am pl\u0103tit.
Nu din cauz\u0103 c\u0103 e criz\u0103, c\u0103 este, dar credeam c\u0103 am uitat, mi-am cerut scuze, am zis c\u0103 pl\u0103tesc \u00eentr-o or\u0103, c\u0103 eram pe drum atunci.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am ajuns undeva unde s\u0103 pot face plata, am intrat \u00een contul ING \u0219i c\u00e2nd s\u0103 fac plata v\u0103d c\u0103 am mai \u00eenceput-o o dat\u0103. Bine, am intrat \u00een cont dup\u0103 ce am a\u0219teptat vreo 3-5 minute dup\u0103 SMS, am mai trimis unul, astea. Sunt obi\u0219nuit s\u0103 se \u00eent\u00e2mple a\u0219a c\u00e2nd nu sunt \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. Dau vina pe Roaming pe Telekom, pe faptul c\u0103 sunt o zg\u00e2rcitanie ponojit\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103 insist s\u0103-mi desf\u0103\u0219or afacerile \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. Asta e, b\u0103h, late bloomer, a \u00eenceput s\u0103-mi plac\u0103 \u021bara asta dup\u0103 ce am plecat din nea, nu pentru c\u0103 ce mi\u0219to era \u0219i nu \u0219tiam eu, ci pentru c\u0103 \u0219i aia de am ales-o , UK, e tot o rom\u00e2nie, dar un pic altfel, m-am lovit de toate col\u021burile de m-am \u00eenvine\u021bit \u0219i pentru c\u0103 dup\u0103 cum pute\u021bi vedea, direc\u021bia \u00een care se mi\u0219c\u0103 \u021bara aia e diferit\u0103 de direc\u021bia \u00een care se mi\u0219c\u0103 Romulania, nimic altceva, f\u0103r\u0103 umflat \u00een pene \u0219i m\u00e2na pe inim\u0103. A\u0219a cu ING-ul . <\/p>\n\n\n\n

V\u0103d \u00een sensul de am v\u0103zut mesajul pl\u0103\u021bii pe telefon . O fi mers, n-o fi mers… Dac\u0103 m-au sunat probabil c\u0103 n-a mers, n-am mai verificat mai departe, c\u0103 n-am timp. Am efectuat plata din nou, mi-au trimis SMS cu cod. Dup\u0103 c\u00e2teva minute, normal. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

B\u0103gat cod, \u201dSemneaz\u0103 \u0219i Trimite\u201d – p\u0103rea c\u0103 a mers. Zic hai s\u0103 descarc confirmarea pl\u0103\u021bii, ca s\u0103 le-o trimit domnilor furnizori. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ia pula na, plata ap\u0103rea respins\u0103 \u00eentr-un raport, f\u0103r\u0103 alte alerte, pop-uri, mesaje orice. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

M\u0103 rog, \u00een raportul \u0103la spunea c\u0103 ultimele 8 pl\u0103\u021bi au fost respinse – la gr\u0103mad\u0103, facturi furnizori, salariul so\u021biei, mi se p\u0103rea mie c\u0103 se poart\u0103 mai nu \u0219tiu cum cu mine, nu \u00een\u021belegeam de ce, de la bani se destram\u0103 familii! <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u0218i ce era mai important, nici taxele la stat luna trecut\u0103 n-au fost pl\u0103tite, din acela\u0219i motiv. Probabil c\u0103 m\u0103 va penaliza ANAF-ul. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pe care i-am \u0219i b\u0103nuit , \u00een prim\u0103 faz\u0103, c\u0103 mi-or fi pus vreo poprire pe conturile de firm\u0103, nu c\u0103 a\u0219 fi primit vreo notificare c\u0103 ceva, de la ei sau de la contabil, dar na, Rom\u00e2nia pitoreasc\u0103 – nu \u0219tii!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am sunat la rela\u021bii cu clien\u021bii \u0219i, dac\u0103 e s\u0103 zic ceva de bine de ING, este c\u0103 au r\u0103spuns imediat. Imediat ce a e\u0219uat autentificarea cu Maria, roboata lor, dar ori\u0219ic\u00e2t. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zic dom’ne, nu pot face pl\u0103\u021bi, dup\u0103 ce reu\u0219esc autentificarea cu o persoan\u0103 uman\u0103. Oarecum uman\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

C\u0103 da, c\u0103 ave\u021bi contul restric\u021bionat c\u0103 nu v-a\u021bi actualizat datele. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

-P\u0103i, da, c\u0103 am mai \u00eencercat online dar nu a mers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

-P\u0103i, pute\u021bi \u00eencerca acum, din nou, din cont. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

-SUPER!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Dar nu o s\u0103 mearg\u0103, c\u0103 nu merge \u201drecomul<\/em><\/strong>\u201d ( n.m. jargon pentru API-ul registrului comer\u021bului care permite generarea de certificate constatatoare pentru firm\u0103). C\u0103 au schimbat platforma software \u0219i de 2 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni nu merge deloc. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

-P\u0103i \u0219i? Trebuie s\u0103 merg la un orificiu ING?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Da, pute\u021bi \u00eencerca, <\/strong> dar nici de la ei nu o s\u0103 mearg\u0103 online \u0219i va trebui s\u0103 ob\u021bine\u021bi un certificat constatator de la ONRC, trebuie s\u0103 merge\u021bi la ei personal. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

M\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc \u00een mintea mea c\u0103 oricum nu vreau s\u0103 merg LA \u0102IA, n-am fost p\u00e2n\u0103 acum, vorbesc cu contabilul sau cu un avocat ceva, dar \u0219i dac\u0103 a\u0219 vrea probabil e coad\u0103 ca de comet\u0103 la ei, dar \u00eemi r\u0103sare un g\u00e2nd:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Doamn\u0103, dar dac\u0103 produc un certificat de pe site-ul Registrului Comer\u021bului, c\u0103 am cont la ei. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

-P\u0103i da, dar dac\u0103 nu merge aplica\u021bia online?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

-P\u0103i \u0219i atunci, eu ce fac cu pl\u0103\u021bile?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

-\u00cencerca\u021bi s\u0103 merge\u021bi la un oficiu ING. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mor\u021bi \u0219i r\u0103ni\u021bi…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nervos nevoie mare , \u00eenjur\u00e2nd statul care nu e \u00een stare s\u0103-\u0219i digitalizeze solu\u021biile \u0219i mai ales pe ministrul digitaliz\u0103rii, nici nu \u0219tiam cum \u00eel cheam\u0103 , a trebuit s\u0103 caut pe internet, doar ca s\u0103 \u0219tiu pe cine \u00eenjur, \u0219i pe Bolo\u0219, c\u0103 el e cu onereceii, anafii \u0219i anafura m\u0103-sii, am intrat pe contul de la registrul comer\u021bului s\u0103 verific ce merge \u0219i nu merge acolo , ca s\u0103 \u00eenjur mai tare. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

B\u0103, \u0219i aplica\u021bia \u0103lora e f\u0103cut\u0103 birocrat de-a pula, efectiv \u021bi se face sc\u00e2rb\u0103 c\u00e2nd vezi ce scrie acolo – DAR MERGE! \u0218i at\u00e2t m\u0103 intereseaz\u0103, la nivelul \u0103sta de sictir pe care l-am dezvoltat. Merge? Mi-am scos certificatul pizdii \u00een c\u00e2teva minute? Blan\u0103, asta \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 nu stau la cozi, nu pl\u0103tesc servicii \u00een plus la contabili sau avoca\u021bi, nu am preten\u021bii mai mari – sunt OK cu at\u00e2t, restul sunt fine\u021buri. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Deci flegmele \u00eenapoi la ING. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

A doua zi am mers la oficiul din micul t\u00e2rg de provincie, cu certificatul de la ONRC \u00een din\u021bi. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

B\u0103, una la m\u00e2n\u0103, exist\u0103 o diferen\u021b\u0103 \u00eentre angaja\u021bii de la suport – care sunt mai agen\u021bi constatatori dec\u00e2t poli\u021bia \u00een \u021bara asta – r\u0103spund repede dar nu au reu\u0219it de ultimele 5 ori s\u0103-mi rezolve vreo problem\u0103 pe care n-am putut-o rezolva eu prin contul lor. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Doamna de la biroul ING, nu-i dau numele doar pentru c\u0103 n-am discutat cu dumneaei inainte a\u0219a ceva, dar cred c\u0103 merit\u0103 premiul de angajatul lunii; altceva. Am discutat despre problemele cu aplica\u021bia, am ref\u0103cut confirmarea datelor de m\u00e2n\u0103, \u00een definitiv am mai avut nevoie de ceva act constitutiv c\u0103 au survenit ( acum doi ani ) modific\u0103ri, dar am rezolvat-o \u0219i mi-a zis c\u0103 puteam spune c\u0103 e urgent \u0219i trebuia ca agenta de la suport s\u0103-mi deblocheze pl\u0103\u021bile. Serios? P\u0103i i-am zis c\u0103 nu pot s\u0103 fac pl\u0103\u021bi, c\u0103 \u00eemi blocheaz\u0103 furnizorii serviciile, c\u0103 nu \u00eemi pot pl\u0103ti salaria\u021bii, aveam nevoie de un cuv\u00e2nt cheie, gen \u201durgent\u201d sau ce?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revenit acas\u0103 am \u00eencercat s\u0103 fac pl\u0103\u021bile urm\u0103rind raportul de mai sus, pe care nu pot s\u0103-l descarc pentru c\u0103 eroarea de mai jos. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u0218i nu pot vedea raportul pl\u0103\u021bilor din Extrase de cont, c\u0103 nu sunt finalizate cu succes. \u0218i nu pot deschide aplica\u021bia de banc\u0103 \u00een dou\u0103 taburi separate de net, din motive \u00eentemeiate de securitate – CSRF ceva. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mi-a ar\u0103tat so\u021bia c\u0103 pot re\u00eencerca plata din meniul raportului de mai sus. Aia n-am v\u0103zut vina mea. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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