{"id":31784,"date":"2025-06-05T04:37:00","date_gmt":"2025-06-05T03:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=31784"},"modified":"2025-06-04T20:51:43","modified_gmt":"2025-06-04T19:51:43","slug":"s-a-gasit-firme-la-pnt-sau-curtea-de-conturi-a-descoperit-apa-rece","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=31784","title":{"rendered":"S-a g\u0103sit firme la PN\u021a \/ sau curtea de conturi a descoperit apa rece"},"content":{"rendered":"
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\u00cen timp ce fur\u0103 curent. C\u0103 aia cald\u0103 era luat\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Tocmai se v\u0103ita Bolo\u0219 c\u0103-i lipsesc 30 de miliarde. Na, Ilie, uite <\/a>de unde le iei. Sau nu merge s\u0103 le iei de la datornici, trebuie musai de la \u0103ia care pl\u0103tesc. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Altfel descoperirea e de valoare modest\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zice Curtea de Conturi c\u0103 sunt 2440 de adrese la care func\u021bioneaz\u0103 multiple firme. A\u0218A \u0218I? E conform legii 102\/2020 \u0219i e foarte bine c\u0103 e a\u0219a. Dac\u0103 ai o micro\u00eentreprindere de servicii, n-ai poft\u0103 s\u0103 te caute ANAF pe la un anume sediu social, acas\u0103 sau oriunde, c\u0103 oricum te caut\u0103 degeaba. Dac\u0103 m\u0103 caut\u0103 ANAF oricum \u00eei dau contabilul s\u0103 vorbesc\u0103 cu el \u0219i probabil c\u0103, dac\u0103 e nevoie, c\u0103 nu se \u00een\u021beleg \u00een rom\u00e2ne\u0219te, un avocat, s\u0103 traduc\u0103. Ce s\u0103 discut io cu ei. De aia \u0219i adresa firmei mele e la una din cele 2440 descoperite de Curtea de Conturi care zice:
Analiza de risc efectuat\u0103 de structurile cu atribu\u0163ii din cadrul ANAF trebuie s\u0103 completeze indicatorii de risc fiscal astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t ace\u015ftia s\u0103 surprind\u0103 \u015fi acest comportament neconform<\/strong>. \u00cen vederea combaterii acestui fenomen <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu e nimic neconform, e chiar foarte conform legii.
Zic ei c\u0103 \u201dsunt necesare modific\u0103ri asupra cadrului legal actual care permite \u00eenregistrarea la Oficiul Na\u0163ional al Registrului Comer\u0163ului a unui num\u0103r de sedii sociale multiple, la aceea\u015fi adres\u0103, inclusiv pe baza unor contracte de asisten\u0163\u0103 juridic\u0103, ce devin \u00een fapt permanente.<\/em>\u201d
Efectiv ce pula mea \u0219i de ce pula mea s\u0103 nu ai a\u0219a. Pro\u0219tii pulii mele. Probabil tr\u0103iesc pe alt\u0103 lume, \u0103\u0219tia nu au habar c\u0103 majoritatea firmelor mici \u0219i mijlocii au servicii de business administration ( contabilitate, payroll \u0219i ce mai e) c\u0103tre companii de servicii de business, numite generic \u00een jargon \u201dfirm\u0103 de contabilitate\u201d. \u0218i tot ei \u021bin \u0219i sediul social pentru c\u0103 e mai util pentru toat\u0103 lumea, inclusiv pentru inspectorii ANAF s\u0103 fie \u00een contact cu o loca\u021bie de care se ocup\u0103 cineva cu care pot interac\u021biona pertinent la o adic\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

C\u0103 s\u0103 nu mai fie a\u0219a. DE CE?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pen c\u0103 dac\u0103 pro\u0219tii \u0103\u0219tia nu vor s\u0103 fiu un cet\u0103\u021bean patriot care are firma \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, cu contabil rom\u00e2n \u0219.a.m.d nu m\u0103 opre\u0219te mare lucru s\u0103 deschid firma asta \u00een alt\u0103 \u021bar\u0103 din UE, strict pentru activit\u0103\u021bile de business \u0219i trading care altfel n-au sens. C\u0103 nu, nu e vorba c\u0103 n-am o adres\u0103 \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, e c\u0103 n-are sens s\u0103 dau adresa unei loca\u021bii unde \u0103\u0219tia nu se pot \u00eent\u00e2lni cu nimeni dac\u0103 vin.
\u00cen alte \u021b\u0103ri po\u021bi deschide companii pe c\u0103su\u021be po\u0219tale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ei au descoperit bine patternul \u0103sta \u0219i ar putea fi exploatat u\u0219or de ANAF, dar nu prin modificarea legii , care s\u0103 interzic\u0103, ci prin mers la punct ochit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Zic ei: <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Un alt exemplu \u00eent\u00e2lnim \u00een Sectorul 2, unde \u00eentr-un singur apartament dintr-un imobil de pe strada Arhitect Grigore Ionescu func\u0163ionau 2736 firme, cu un sold total al datoriilor de 124.773.065 lei (la 31.12.2023). Riscul fiscal determinat de func\u0163ionarea \u00eentr-un sediu social situat la aceea\u015fi adres\u0103 cu alte zeci, sute sau chiar mii de firme ar trebui evaluat de organele fiscale<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

P\u0103i, nu vrei s\u0103 interzici deschiderea de firme, dar o dat\u0103 identificat\u0103 loca\u021bia unde func\u021bioneaz\u0103 firmele \u0103stea, administratorul loca\u021biei, ar trebui verificat\u0103 firma de contabilitate care raporteaz\u0103 c\u0103tre ANAF ( apare \u00een declara\u021bii de bilan\u021b, de toate felurile) pentru firmele \u0103stea. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u0218i te duci la \u0103ia \u0219i ii iei la pul\u0103 la modul : Salut, v\u0103d c\u0103 administra\u021bi 2736 de firme cu succes , toate pe adresa asta. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen total au datorii de 124 de milioane \u0219i ni\u0219te m\u0103run\u021bi\u0219. Presupun c\u0103 nu fiecare din firmele \u0103lea au datorii, dar e bine s\u0103 le aib\u0103 \u00een dosar. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ia s\u0103 vedem noi, control imediat la toate firmele cu datorii , care-i schema cine le are, de ce nu pl\u0103tesc, cu cine fac trading ETC – s\u0103 se prezinte contabilii aronda\u021bi la ele la discu\u021bii cu ANAF, eventual managerul companiei de contabilitate, la o discu\u021bie de principii. Anume, cum lu\u0103m banii , de ce sunt datori, care pe unde externalizeaz\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trebuie s\u0103 fii prostul planetei, s\u0103 vrei s\u0103 dai o lege care s\u0103 mute firmele \u0103lea la alte sedii aleatoare, dup\u0103 care mai g\u0103se\u0219ti din pul\u0103 patternuri s\u0103 le investighezi \u0219i poate ai situa\u021bia amuzant\u0103 s\u0103 fie \u00een toate jude\u021bele \u021b\u0103rii, hai succes cu interoperativitatea ANAF. C\u0103 e \u0219i asta o chestie. Eu am firma \u00eenregistrat\u0103 \u00een Bucure\u0219ti nu c\u0103 sunt eu FAN ONRC \u0219i ANAF Bucure\u0219ti , din vagine, pardon vagile interac\u021biuni pe persoan\u0103 fizic\u0103 cu ANAF sector 3 Bucure\u0219ti, acum 7-8 ani erau ni\u0219te cotoroan\u021be care lucrau la \u0103ia. Dar firma de contabilitate \u00een care am \u00eencredere e de acolo \u0219i se ocup\u0103 ei. Ar fi peste m\u00e2n\u0103 s\u0103 deschid sediul social la mine la \u021bar\u0103, de\u0219i ar trebui s-o fac. Ar fi mai ieftin, lol. A\u0219a, pl\u0103tesc pentru sediul \u0103sta social \u00eenchiriat.
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Dar dac\u0103 nu f\u0103ceau stuntul \u0103sta de pres\u0103 poate ne g\u00e2ndeam c\u0103 ce face, b\u0103 , curtea de conturi, de ce st\u0103 degeaba? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu st\u0103, se face c\u0103 munce\u0219te. Sau, m\u0103 rog, asta raporteaz\u0103, produc\u021bie la hectar \u0219i corela\u021bii g\u00e2ndite pe jum\u0103tate. <\/p>\n\n\n\n


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