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C\u0103 de ce zic eu c\u0103 e greu aici cu legi care s\u0103 dea verde la omoruri<\/a>, chit c\u0103 \u00een condi\u021bii speciale, justificabile. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

C\u0103 oamenii pot fi cu pielea a dracului pe ei oricum, dar a\u0219a , \u00ee\u0219i pot c\u0103uta c\u0103 nu au avut, domne, proceduri.
Ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 asta?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Luci ( de la Lucifer?<\/a>) Letby e o tanti care serve\u0219te 15 vie\u021bi \u00een \u00eenchisoare, presupun c\u0103-n paralel, sau o \u021bin \u0103ia \u0219i dup\u0103 ce moare prima dat\u0103… c\u0103 a omor\u00e2t 7 copii. Deci 2 vie\u021bi de copil. Nu a\u0219a, ci pentru c\u0103 a vrut s\u0103 mai omoare 7, unu chiar de 2 ori – deci presupun c\u0103 a fost pedepsit\u0103 \u0219i pentru ineficien\u021b\u0103. M\u0103 rog, allegedly, <\/strong> pentru c\u0103 de\u0219i a primit verdictul de la un juriu, este un fel de \u201dElodia\u201d britanicilor.


Tanti lucra la neonatologie, adic\u0103 acolo unde se nasc copii – s-a dus direct la surs\u0103 \u0219i a fost acuzat\u0103 \u0219i au g\u0103sit-o vinpvat\u0103 c\u0103 ba le b\u0103ga aer \u00een vene, ba \u00eei \u00eeneca cu lapte, \u0219i dezbat \u0103\u0219tia \u00een parlament unde au gre\u0219it ei \u0219i spitalul<\/a>.

Ce e lipsit de dubii e c\u0103 mortalit\u0103\u021bile au crescut c\u00e2t a fost ea angajat\u0103 la spital \u0219i au sc\u0103zut la normal dup\u0103 ce au sc\u0103pat de ea. Deci ceva influen\u021b\u0103 a avut.

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Dubio\u0219eniile din dosar:
1. Un martor pe care procurorii <\/a>– acuzarea l-au adus s\u0103 sus\u021bin\u0103 cauza public\u0103 \u0219i care era consultant medical \u201dUniversity College London Hospitals NHS Trust\u201d s-a aflat sub investiga\u021bii intentate de stat cum c\u0103 ar fi f\u0103cut r\u0103u unor pacien\u021bi. Iar juriul din proces nu a fost informat.
Pentru mine, asta sun\u0103 a te pres\u0103m cu o investiga\u021bie ca s\u0103 depui m\u0103rturie \u0219i o s\u0103-\u021bi \u021bii gura cu privire la faptul c\u0103 e\u0219ti sub investiga\u021bie, ca s\u0103 nu decredibiliz\u0103m m\u0103rturia. Nu conteaz\u0103 dac\u0103 m\u0103rturia e veridic\u0103 sau nu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

2. Acuza\u021bii validate \u00een proces dar respinse de diver\u0219i exper\u021bi. Sursa.
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Un copil , dintr-o serie de triple\u021bi a murit \u0219i procurorul patolog ( un iespert) a zis c\u0103 e de la stress – glumes, r\u0103ni la ficat similare cu cele produse \u00een cazul unui accident de ma\u0219in\u0103 \u0219i a\u0219a a trecut, de\u0219i al\u021bi iesper\u021bi au alte p\u0103reri, unul zice c\u0103 un medic i-ar fi g\u0103urit ficatul cu un ac \u00een timpul unei resuscit\u0103ri. Al\u021bi exper\u021bi zic c\u0103 s-ar fi n\u0103scut cu traume.
\u00centrebarea e mai degrab\u0103 de cum s-a f\u0103cut ceea ce se nume\u0219te crossexamination. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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However, a paediatric pathologist who was not involved in the case but has seen Baby O’s post-mortem report, says it was “unlikely” Baby O’s liver injuries were caused by impact – as the prosecution claims.”You can’t completely rule out the possibility,” says the pathologist, who does not want to be identified. “But in my view, the location of the injuries and the condition of the liver tissue itself don’t fit with that explanation.”
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In December 2024, Mark McDonald called a press conference in which one of his experts, Dr Richard Taylor, claimed that a doctor had accidentally pierced the baby’s liver with a needle during resuscitation. This, he argued, had led to the baby’s death.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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other experts working for Letby’s defence team have put forward another theory for Baby O’s death. They say his liver injuries were the result of traumatic delivery at the time of birth.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n




3.\u00cen alt\u0103 situa\u021bie procurorii au citat studiul unui neonatologist pentru a proba un presupun embolism indus prin injec\u021bie de aer \u00een vene prin schimbarea culorii pielii – iar doctorul care a scris studiul declar\u0103 c\u0103 l-au folosit gre\u0219it. <\/strong> B\u0103i, \u0103la nu are nicio m\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een jocul \u0103la \u0219i spune cu subiect \u0219i predicat c\u0103 au abuzat de studiul lui. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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However, Dr Shoo Lee, a Canadian neonatologist and one of the authors of that 1989 study, is now part of Letby’s team of defence experts working with Mark McDonald. He argues that his study was misused.He says skin discolouration has not featured in any reported cases of air embolism in babies where the air has entered the circulation via a vein \u2013 which is what the prosecution alleged happened in the Letby case.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

4. Proba care a convins juriul de vinov\u0103\u021bie a fost una care zice c\u0103 copilului O ( Baby O) i s-a injectat insulin\u0103 \u0219i p\u00e2n\u0103 \u0219i la aia au fost ceva p\u0103reri contrare.
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Problema mea \u0219i cred c\u0103 a parlamentului nu e dac\u0103 tanti asta e vinovat\u0103 sau nu. Asta e treaba justi\u021biei.
Ideea e c\u0103 nu \u0219i-a recunoscut vina \u0219i \u00een 14 cazuri, 7 copiii mor\u021bi \u0219i 7 tentative nu au reu\u0219it , de-a lungul a mai mult de 1 an de lucru \u00een spital, s\u0103 str\u00e2ng\u0103 dovezi clare, doar circumstan\u021biale.
\u00cen oricare situa\u021bie, dac\u0103 e vinovat\u0103 sau nu, e o problem\u0103 sistemic\u0103.
Dac\u0103 o asistent\u0103 poate s\u0103 omoare copii f\u0103r\u0103 s-o poat\u0103 controla \/ verifica nimeni, sistemul nu prea exist\u0103, ca s\u0103 zic a\u0219a.
Dac\u0103 toate probele pe care le po\u021bi g\u0103si sunt circumstan\u021biale \u0219i juriul clarific\u0103 lipsa dubiilor printr-o suprapunere de probabilit\u0103\u021bi conjuncturale, ci nu pot dovedi inten\u021bia sau fapta \u00een mod direct – nu e o problem\u0103 a justi\u021biei \u0219i a juriului ci a sistemului \u00een care func\u021bion\u0103m. \u00cen UK ai camere peste tot dar o persoan\u0103 reu\u0219e\u0219te s\u0103 nu-\u0219i fac\u0103 datoria \u00een mod criminal timp de 2 ani.

Pe partea cealalt\u0103, dac\u0103 ar fi nevinovat\u0103 nu-i cu nimic mai bine. Pentru c\u0103 \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 vina ei, copiii \u0103ia au murit. Mortalitatea a fost extraordinar de mare pe perioada c\u00e2t a lucrat acolo \u0219i orice persoan\u0103 ar fi sau nu ar fi vinovat\u0103, sistemul nu a func\u021bionat \u0219i nu po\u021bi pretinde altfel dec\u00e2t dac\u0103 e\u0219ti romulan cu \u201dn-a avut zile\u201d , salut Andreea.

\u00cen condi\u021biile \u0103stea, \u00een sistemul \u0103stora, s\u0103 ai o lege care d\u0103 liber la ucidere asistat\u0103 mi se pare c\u0103 e curul gol pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 pula sculat\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pula mea \u0219tii ce respect \u00een \u021bara asta, dac\u0103 e ceva de respectat?
C\u0103 nu au venit unii cu \u00eenregistr\u0103ri sau m\u0103rturii ( chiar, de unde aveau, b\u0103, \u0103ia inregistr\u0103rile de la Sf. Pantelimon) gen \u201dia uite-i cum mor ei, m\u00e2nca-i-ar mama, haida, \u00eenc\u0103 unu la Hades, avem vibe bun, sunt cea mai bun\u0103 pe tur\u0103, este?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Iar ceilal\u021bi s\u0103 aprobe \u0219i publicul s\u0103 caute scuze \u00een dozimetrie – salut, animaloo. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

M\u0103car at\u00e2t. M\u0103car pe foile \u0103lia au g\u0103sit scris \u201dI am evil\u201d. Vinovat\u0103 sau nu, bolnav\u0103 la cap sau nu, undeva \u00een\u0103untrul ei con\u0219tientizeaz\u0103 c\u0103 e o problem\u0103 s\u0103 lucrezi undeva unde trebuie s\u0103 salvezi oameni \u0219i ei mor – c\u0103-i omori tu , sau nu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u0218i societatea la fel. <\/p>\n\n\n\n


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