

{"id":4922,"date":"2016-03-31T06:45:24","date_gmt":"2016-03-31T04:45:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=4922"},"modified":"2016-03-31T08:00:21","modified_gmt":"2016-03-31T06:00:21","slug":"despre-banci-azi-ing-si-brd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=4922","title":{"rendered":"Despre b\u0103nci &#8211; azi ING \u0219i BRD"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p>V-a\u0219 spune povestea \u00eentreag\u0103, dar mi-e lene s-o scriu din nou , a\u0219a c\u0103 am s\u0103 pun aici dou\u0103 copy\/paste-uri din emailurile trimise c\u0103tre cele dou\u0103 companii, de unde reiese povestea \u0219i am s\u0103 \u00a0\u00eembog\u0103\u021besc cu\u00a0\u00a0complet\u0103ri.<\/p>\n<p>Totu\u0219i pe scurt, c\u0103 poate nu ave\u021bi r\u0103bdare s\u0103 citi\u021bi mai jos :<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Nu este posibil s\u0103 faci un transfer bancar, cel pu\u021bin \u00eentre ING \u0219i respectiv BRD, dintr-un cont \u00een lei , \u00eentr-un cont \u00een Euro.<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Lua\u021bi asta ca pe o axiom\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen caz c\u0103 vreuna din cele doua companii se sesizeaz\u0103 cum c\u0103 nu ar fi adev\u0103rat ceea ce spun, am \u00a0\u00eenregistr\u0103rile convorbirilor telefonice cu operatorii ambelor institu\u021bii. Doresc s\u0103 men\u021bionez c\u0103 discu\u021biile s-au purtat pe un ton \u00a0civilizat \u0219i nu am repro\u0219uri cu privire la atitudinea operatorilor de suport , pe linie de atitudine \u00een rela\u021bia cu clien\u021bii. Serios, nu! Doar c\u0103 nu mi-au rezolvat problema \u0219i nici nu au s-o rezolve pentru c\u0103 citez asta e procedura.<\/p>\n<p>[stextbox id=&#8221;black&#8221;]Email 1 , trimis Luni seara:[\/stextbox]<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">\u00cen aten\u021bia<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Departamentului pentru Rela\u021bii cu Clien\u021bii BRD GSG<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">c\u00e2t \u0219i a<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Departamentului pentru Rela\u021bii cu Clien\u021bii ING Bank<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Bun\u0103 seara,<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">De\u0219i reprezenta\u021bi dou\u0103 entit\u0103\u021bi diferite, v\u0103 scriu acest email adres\u00e2nu-m\u0103 am\u00e2nduror entit\u0103\u021bilor deoarece prive\u0219te o tranzac\u021bie \u00eentre conturile mele de la b\u0103ncile dumneavoastr\u0103 care a fost ini\u021biat\u0103 de c\u0103tre mine vineri 25.03.2016 \u0219i nu s-a realizat \u00eenc\u0103 efectiv din motive care \u00eemi sunt neclare \u0219i se pare c\u0103 este inutil s\u0103 discut la telefon separat c\u00e2nd cu o parte c\u00e2nd cu cealalt\u0103 .<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Numele meu este \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal]\u00a0\u0219i sunt titularul contului \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal] <strong>\u00een lei<\/strong>\u00a0 la ING \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal]\u00a0, c\u00e2t \u0219i al contului \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal], deschis <strong>\u00een Euro <\/strong>la BRD \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal]\u00a0.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">\u00cen ambele sisteme bancare sunt \u00eenregistrat cu num\u0103rul de telefon \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal] la care m\u0103 pute\u021bi contacta.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">\u00cen data de 25.03.2016 \u00een jurul orei 12:30 PM\u00a0 am transferat suma\u00a0 de <em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">\u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal]<\/span><\/em> lei din contul ING mai sus men\u021bionat , \u00een contul BRD.\u00a0 Nu \u0219tiu cu exactitate suma a\u0219teptat\u0103 \u00een contul BRD , deoarece nu \u0219tiu cine face conversia din lei \u00een euro, nici data. \u00a0Dar estimez suma de \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal] de EUR. \u00a0Tranzac\u021bia apare ca realizat\u0103 \u00een contul meu ING\u00a0 \u0219i am ata\u0219at extrasul aferent acestia , cu referin\u021b\u0103 \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal].\u00a0 Tranzac\u021bia mi-a fost confirmat\u0103 ca efectuat\u0103\u00a0 la data men\u021bionata de c\u0103tre operatorul \u00a0rela\u021bii cu clien\u021bii ING , numit Denis la telefon , ast\u0103zi 28.03 , \u00een jurul orei 17:53. Ar trebui s\u0103 ave\u021bi \u00eenregistrarea , pentru detalii.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">S\u00e2mb\u0103t\u0103 26 martie la ora 11:24 am sunat la num\u0103rul de rela\u021bii cu clien\u021bii al BRD s\u0103 \u00eentreb dac\u0103 se \u0219tie de ce nu s-au virat banii , iar doamna\/ domni\u0219oara \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal] a spus c\u0103 nu se realizeaza tranzac\u021bii pe perioada weekendului ,de\u0219i eu am efectuat\u00a0 tranferul \u00eenainte de weekend.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Ast\u0103zi,\u00a0 Luni 28.03.2016 la ora 18:00 am discutat telefonic cu domnul \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal], c\u0103ruia i-am descris problema, \u0219i care a spus s\u0103 mai a\u0219tept p\u00e2n\u0103 la ora 19:00 , deoarece p\u00e2n\u0103 la acea ora \u00eenc\u0103 se alimenteaz\u0103 conturi, dup\u0103 care , dac\u0103\u00a0 banii nu intr\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 la acea ora, cum este \u0219i cazul.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Motivul pentru care sunt \u00eengrijorat \u0219i gr\u0103bit este pentru c\u0103 folosesc contul BRD pentru a-mi pl\u0103ti\u00a0 un credit \u00een euro la aceast\u0103 banc\u0103 , care avea rata scadent\u0103 ,aferent\u0103 lunii martie, \u00een data de \u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal] \u0219i nu mi-am imaginat c\u0103 transferul bancar <strong>electronic <\/strong>dureaz\u0103 mai mult dec\u00e2t s\u0103 merg personal la bancomatul ING , s\u0103 extrag bani , eventual s\u0103 \u00eei schimb , iar apoi s\u0103 \u00eei duc personal la BRD. Ma reg\u0103sesc acum de dou\u0103 zile \u00een pozi\u021bia ingrat\u0103 de restant la plata ratei creditului meu din motive care\u00a0 nu privesc bonitatea mea, ci dificult\u0103\u021bile tehnice dintre cele 2 b\u0103nci.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Deoarece sunt un client de bun\u0103 credin\u021b\u0103, m\u00e2ine diminea\u021b\u0103 voi merge\u00a0 \u0219i voi retrage manual al\u021bi bani dintr-un ATM ING , \u00eei voi schimba \u0219i \u00eemi voi pl\u0103ti tot manual , la un ghi\u0219eu rata acestui credit, pentru a evita penalit\u0103\u021bi c\u00e2t \u0219i posibile sanc\u021biuni legate de \u00eent\u00e2rziere de\u0219i nu consider c\u0103 \u00eemi sunt direct imputabile.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">V\u0103 rog, \u00eens\u0103 s\u0103 urgenta\u021bi pe c\u00e2t posibil acest transfer, oriunde ar fi problema, iar pe viitor s\u0103 \u00eencerca\u021bi o colaborare mai bun\u0103 deoarece este \u00een intereseul clien\u021bilor dumneavoastr\u0103.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Deasemenea solicit ambelor companii un num\u0103r de \u00eenregistrare \u00een sistemul dumneavoastr\u0103 de management al rela\u021biilor cu clien\u021bii pentru aceast\u0103 problem\u0103.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #000080;\">Cu deosebit\u0103 considera\u021biune \u0219i respect,<\/span><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Am primit doar un email automat de la ING , f\u0103r\u0103 numar de tichet, f\u0103r\u0103 nimic. BRD m-a sunat. La ING a trebuit sa sun eu de fiecare dat\u0103, \u00eens\u0103 au fost promp\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>[stextbox id=&#8221;black&#8221;]Email 2, trimis marti seara:[\/stextbox]<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">Bun\u0103 seara,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 De\u0219i nu am primit \u00eenca un raspuns formal la solicitarea mea formal\u0103, \u00een urma discu\u021biilor purtate telefonic cu operatorul <em>\u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal]\u00a0<\/em> de la ING c\u00e2t \u0219i cu \u00a0doamna sau domni\u0219oara <em>\u00a0[informa\u021bii cu caracter personal]<\/em>am primit urm\u0103toarele informa\u021bii:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">Ini\u021bial BRD mi-a transmis c\u0103 este o problem\u0103 tehnic\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103 au trimis un mesaj de corec\u021bie c\u0103tre ING.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">Am contactat ING \u0219i mi s-a transmis telefonic, dup\u0103 ce au\u00a0 contactat BRD prin canal bancar, c\u0103 problema e cu faptul ca BRD <strong>nu vrea s\u0103 fac\u0103 conversia valutar\u0103 <\/strong>din lei \u00een euro \u0219i c\u0103 nu ar fi nicio problem\u0103 de ordin tehnic.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">Am contactat BRD \u0219i am transmis aceast\u0103 informa\u021bie , iar doamna sau domni\u0219oara Andreea a men\u021bionat c\u0103 va face o verificare la departamentul avizat pentru a ob\u021bine \u0219i p\u0103rerea lor.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">\u00centre timp , a\u0219a cum am men\u021bionat ieri, b\u0103nuind c\u0103 nu ve\u021bi rezolva nimic prea cur\u00e2nd\u00a0 mi-am mandatat so\u021bia s\u0103 depun\u0103 al\u021bi bani \u00een contul curent BRD, numerar la ghi\u0219eu , euro, pentru a fi sigur c\u0103 rezolv problema ratei care a dep\u0103\u0219it scaden\u021ba \u0219i observ c\u0103 BRD a efectuat deja retragerea.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">Prin urmare , desi acest transfer nu mai reprezint\u0103 \u00een acest moment o urgen\u021b\u0103 \u0219i v\u0103 rog sa lua\u021bi act de bunele mele inten\u021bii \u00een rezolvarea situa\u021biei, observ c\u0103 banii \u00een continuare se afl\u0103 \u00een aceea\u0219i situa\u021bie , adic\u0103 retra\u0219i din contul meu ING \u0219i neajun\u0219i \u00een contul BRD.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">A\u0219tept cu ner\u0103bdare sa v\u0103d \u00een acela\u0219i mod bunele dumneavoastr\u0103 inten\u021bii \u0219i sunt realmente curios c\u00e2t timp va dura p\u00e2n\u0103 c\u00e2nd acest transfer va fi finalizat.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">De\u0219i am primit un email ini\u021bial de la ING , nu am primit \u00eenc\u0103 niciun num\u0103r de \u00eenregistrare nici de la BRD , nici de la ING cu privire la solicitarea mea , repet, formal\u0103.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: #000080;\">Am s\u0103 continui s\u0103 v\u0103 scriu eu zilnic cu un sumar al progresului \u00a0ob\u021binut telefonic , dac\u0103 \u00een scris nu comunica\u021bi , \u00een speran\u021ba unei mai bune colabor\u0103ri.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: terminal, monaco, monospace; color: #003366;\">V\u0103 mul\u021bumesc \u0219i v\u0103 urez\u00a0 o sear\u0103 bun\u0103,<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ce s\u0103 le mai scriu eu zilnic, ca mi-au pus ei banii \u00eenapoi \u00een cont. I-am sunat s\u0103 \u00eei intreb ce s-ar \u00eentampla dac\u0103 a\u0219 \u00eencerca s\u0103 fac din nou transferul deoarece r\u0103spunsurile erau evazive. Operatorul de la ING , mi-a spus cu subiect \u0219i predicat ca nu pot trimite bani dintr-un cont \u00een lei \u00eentr-un cont cu alt\u0103 valut\u0103, \u00een schimb invers este posibil, \u00eentruc\u00e2t am putut verifica personal \u0219i mi-a fost confirmat \u0219i de operator. Nu a putut s\u0103-mi explice logic de ce, \u00een afar\u0103 de textul cu &#8220;asta e procedura&#8221;. Nu a putut nici s\u0103 \u00eemi explice cum, totu\u0219i este posibil s\u0103 pl\u0103tesc cu cardul de la contul \u00een lei cump\u0103raturi \u00een orice \u021bar\u0103 \u0219i pe orice site cu orice valut\u0103 ( euro, dolari , lire turce\u0219ti , shekeli , zlo\u021bi &#8230;). Cert e c\u0103 momentan asta e concluzia \u00a0&#8211; <strong>Nu se poate<\/strong> .<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>V-a\u0219 spune povestea \u00eentreag\u0103, dar mi-e lene s-o scriu din nou , a\u0219a c\u0103 am s\u0103 pun aici dou\u0103 copy\/paste-uri din emailurile trimise c\u0103tre cele&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":4923,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[60],"tags":[1071,757,758],"class_list":["post-4922","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-servicii-impecabile","tag-brd","tag-ing","tag-online-banking"],"views":6534,"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/banking_software.gif","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Eq23-1ho","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4922","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4922"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4922\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4953,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4922\/revisions\/4953"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/4923"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4922"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4922"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4922"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}