{"id":9005,"date":"2017-06-26T20:47:51","date_gmt":"2017-06-26T18:47:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=9005"},"modified":"2017-06-27T06:38:29","modified_gmt":"2017-06-27T04:38:29","slug":"pragul-valoric-ca-masura-a-caracterului-penal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=9005","title":{"rendered":"Pragul valoric ca m\u0103sur\u0103 a caracterului penal"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p>M\u0103 tot fut la icre zilele astea mesaje cu\u00a0<strong>pragul pentru abuzul \u00een serviciu, carevas\u0103zic\u0103, s<a href=\"http:\/\/www.presalocala.com\/2017\/06\/26\/de-clic-sustine-si-tu-pragul-de-1-leu-pentru-abuzul-in-serviciu\/\">\u0103 se seteze la 1 leu.\u00a0<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong>C\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103 ne proptim \u00een tehnicalitatea faptului c\u0103 \u00een alte \u021b\u0103ri europene e un prag, la noi nu e, iar indica\u021biile ar fi s\u0103 fie. M\u0103 \u00eendoiesc de indica\u021bii. Dar unii chiar nu au chef de munc\u0103 \u0219i <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hotnews.ro\/stiri-politic-21808417-florin-iordache-despre-pragul-pentru-abuzul-serviciu-trebuie-fie-suficient-mare-pentru-nu-mai-face-dosare-penale-aiurea-plus-solutia-foarte-rapida-ministerul-justitiei-vina-oug.htm\">consider\u0103 c\u0103-s prea multe dosare penale<\/a> ( cred \u0219i eu, \u00een \u021bara asta&#8230;) \u0219i se cade o limit\u0103 mai \u201dde bun sim\u021b a\u0219a\u201d. Nu deranjezi omul din cas\u0103 pentru nimic.<\/p>\n<p>Eu am studiat doar 1 semestru de drept \u00een cadrul facult\u0103\u021bii de economie agrar\u0103, pe care am \u00eenceput-o la ASE, dup\u0103 ce m\u0103 plictisisem de inginerie \u0219i voiam s\u0103-mi dreg gustul \u0219i s\u0103 fac cumva o compara\u021bie, dac\u0103 chiar Electronica e o facultate dificil\u0103 \u0219i profesorii sunt imposibil de cretini, sau mi se pare mie, c\u0103 nu am alte experien\u021be. \u0218i da, a\u0219a e. Nu mi se pare. ASE-ul era a\u0219a un fel de la mi\u0219to, dar examenul de drept l-am picat, c\u0103 \u00een cursul \u0103la erau prea multe no\u021biuni contradictorii \u0219i nu le puteam memora ca un papagal. Sau poate metoda mea de a g\u00e2ndi lucrurile \u0219tiin\u021bific nu se aplic\u0103 \u00een drept, dracu \u0219tie, cert e c\u0103 nu-s jurist \u0219i dac\u0103 m\u0103 \u00een\u0219el s\u0103-mi fie cu iertare, dar eu tot a\u0219a analizez lucrurile. Cu logica mea.<\/p>\n<p>Prin urmare sunt dou\u0103 tabere. Tab\u0103ra care zice c\u0103 abuzul \u00een serviciu trebuie pedepsit PENAL indiscriminatoriu de\u00a0valoarea pagubei ( de unde \u0219i solu\u021bia simbolic\u0103 de \u201d1 leu\u201d), iar cealalt\u0103 care vrea ca determinarea infrac\u021biunii s\u0103 se fac\u0103 pe baza unui filtru al valorii.<\/p>\n<p>Nicio tab\u0103r\u0103 nu vede argumentele celeilalte. Tab\u0103ra care vrea prag argumenteaza c\u0103 se fac dosare penale aiurea. Acuma, nu \u0219tiu dac\u0103 dosarele \u0103lea chiar se fac, dar \u00een teorie cam au dreptate.<\/p>\n<p>De exemplu. Eu primesc\u00a0o amend\u0103 rutier\u0103, din orice motiv. O contest \u0219i, cu un avocat, c\u00e2\u0219tig. Dac\u0103 c\u00e2\u0219tig \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 nenea agentul a comis un abuz \u00een serviciu prin \u00eenc\u0103lcarea legii. Evident c\u0103 e ilegal s\u0103 m\u0103 amendeze dac\u0103 nu-s vinovat. Evident c\u0103 e un abuz, conform defini\u021biei curente. Prin urmare, dac\u0103 doresc a\u0219 putea s\u0103-l trag la r\u0103spundere penal\u0103 pentru aceasta de mai sus.<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i, b\u0103i, nu zic, dac\u0103 e\u0219ti bulangiu \u0219i m\u0103 sanc\u021bionezi nevinovat \u0219i trebuie s\u0103 te t\u00e2r\u0103sc \u00een instan\u021b\u0103 ca s\u0103 anulez amenda aia, parc\u0103 mi se pare normal s\u0103 fii pedepsit. Dar parc\u0103 s\u0103 faci pu\u0219c\u0103rie pentru asta e cam mult. C\u0103 eu pot s\u0103 c\u00e2\u0219tig \u0219i pentru c\u0103 ai completat procesul verbal aiurea, sau pentru c\u0103 dashcam-ul meu a v\u0103zut altfel dec\u00e2t ai v\u0103zut tu lucrurile, sau pentru c\u0103 pur \u0219i simplu nu ai destule probe pentru ca judec\u0103torul s\u0103-\u021bi admit\u0103 sanc\u021biunea. \u0218i pu\u0219c\u0103rie pentru asta, chiar \u0219i dosar penal, e cam mult, \u00a0nu c\u0103 dau eu doi bani pe ce li se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 agen\u021bilor de circula\u021bie, sau poli\u021bi\u0219tilor \u00een general ( au sindicat, s\u0103-i apere), ci pentru c\u0103 va rezulta \u00een del\u0103sare \u0219i \u00een lipsa aplic\u0103rii legii, c\u0103 cine vrea s\u0103 ri\u0219te dosar penal c\u0103-\u0219i face datoria. Ia lua\u021bi, tat\u0103, to\u021bi avertismente \u0219i la revedere.<\/p>\n<p>Pe de alt\u0103 parte, exist\u0103 atingeri ale libert\u0103\u021bilor individuale, care nu se cuantific\u0103 u\u0219or \u00een bani, iar \u0103lea risc\u0103 s\u0103 scape nepedepsite, dac\u0103 pui un prag. \u00a0Sincer, m\u0103 doare vag \u00een pul\u0103, de la nivelul la care tr\u0103iesc eu, de faptul c\u0103 fur\u0103 un primar 100k EUR, sau 200K p\u00e2n\u0103 s\u0103 aib\u0103 \u0103\u0219tia dreptul s\u0103-l bage la \u00eenchisoare. Sigur, e de r\u0103u, dar nu asta m\u0103 \u00eengrijoreaz\u0103, ci faptul c\u0103 abuzul se m\u0103soar\u0103 strict \u00een daune materiale.<\/p>\n<p>Pai coaie, eu daca trec pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 tine pe strada \u0219i-\u021bi fut, a\u0219a din senin, dou\u0103 perechi de palme, e penal, sau nu e? Ce, \u00a0te-am p\u0103gubit de vreun leu? \u00cen fapt, tu m-ai p\u0103gubit pe mine de ni\u0219te palme valoroase, ar trebui s\u0103-\u021bi trimit o factur\u0103. \u0218i poate comentezi \u0219i te bag \u0219i \u00een portbagaj \u0219i te duc s\u0103 stai \u00een beci vreo 2 zile. E penal? De c\u00e2\u021bi bani te-am p\u0103gubit? Ai pierdut o zi de lucru? C\u00e2t ai salariu? Dar nu e bai, c\u0103 te iau c\u00e2nd e\u0219ti liber, ca s\u0103 n-avem vorbe la proces.<\/p>\n<p>Iar de asta mi-e mai fric\u0103 dec\u00e2t de corup\u021bie. De ziua c\u00e2nd dac\u0103 e\u0219ti s\u0103rac m\u0103 pi\u0219 pe tine, te bag \u00een cazan, te fierb \u0219i te dau la porci. Am fost s\u0103rac, am tr\u0103it zilele \u0103lea \u0219i nu a fost bine.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>M\u0103 tot fut la icre zilele astea mesaje cu\u00a0pragul pentru abuzul \u00een serviciu, carevas\u0103zic\u0103, s\u0103 se seteze la 1 leu.\u00a0\u00a0C\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103 ne proptim \u00een&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":9006,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[744,170],"tags":[1949],"class_list":["post-9005","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-law-and-order","category-politice","tag-pragul-de-abuz-in-serviciu"],"views":2318,"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/SeedAndThreshold_03.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Eq23-2lf","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9005","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9005"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9005\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9008,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9005\/revisions\/9008"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/9006"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9005"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9005"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9005"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}