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Sunt cam obosit \u0219i am \u0219i treab\u0103 dar trebuie s-o spun pe asta c-o uit \u0219i mi se pare tare.<\/p>\n

Eu sunt contractor acum, am mai zis, lucrez pe ceea ce \u00een Romania se intituleaz\u0103 PFA la norm\u0103 de venit. \u00a0Pe scurt exist\u0103 o sum\u0103 pe care statul consider\u0103 c-o faci tu \u00eentr-un an, dup\u0103 ce-\u021bi deduci cheltuielile \u0219i la norma aia se aplic\u0103 toate contribu\u021biile, ca s\u0103 fie simplu pentru to\u021bi pro\u0219tii ca mine, de exemplu, care nu au treab\u0103 cu contabilitatea. Dac\u0103 faci mai mult, s\u0103 fii tu s\u0103n\u0103tos, dac\u0103 faci mai pu\u021bin, tot a\u0219a, taxele tot la suma aia le pl\u0103te\u0219ti.<\/p>\n

Daar e un schepsis. Norma asta nu e a\u0219a ceva unic pe toat\u0103 Rom\u00e2nia. Nu.<\/p>\n

Sunt diferen\u021be de la jude\u021b la jude\u021b, de la sector la sector, de la \u021bar\u0103 la ora\u0219, \u00een unele jude\u021be. ANAF-ul \u00a0jude\u021bean o stabile\u0219te, cred.<\/p>\n

Exemplu practic, \u00a0pentru jude\u021bul meu, adic\u0103 acolo unde am buletinul, dar nu de\u021bin nicio proprietate pe nume \u0219i prenume, este 55000 de lei\/ an, pentru CAEN 6202.<\/p>\n

Pe de alt\u0103 parte, \u00een Bucure\u0219ti, la sectorul 3, norma aia e 28000 . \u00cen principiu e pentru c\u0103 \u201dfutu-i \u00een gur\u0103 de hec\u0103ri, acuma-\u0219i legalizeaz\u0103 veniturile\u201d \u0219i pentru c\u0103-s multe firme care angajeaz\u0103 pe PFA \u00een provincie. \u00a0Pe scurt, taxe la jumate, se vede cu ochiul liber, ce dracu. Cum rom\u00e2n sunt \u0219i eu \u0219i cum am un apartament \u00een sectorul \u0103la, normal c\u0103 mi-am \u00eenregistrat PFA-ul acolo. De\u0219i nu am buletinul pe adresa aia, e proprietatea mea, pot sa fac un contract de comodat \u00eentre mine \u0219i … mine. \u0218i cam aia e.<\/p>\n

Eu am crezut, c\u0103 \u00a0voi pl\u0103ti taxele pentru PFA la Bucure\u0219ti, cum ar fi rezonabil, din moment ce l-am \u00eenregistrat acolo, nu? \u00a0NU. Nefiind firm\u0103, taxele se pl\u0103tesc acolo unde ai tu, persoana, domiciliul fiscal, adic\u0103 acolo unde ai CNP-ul, adic\u0103, domiciliul. Adic\u0103 la V\u00e2lcea, \u00een cazul meu.<\/p>\n

Mie \u00eemi era fric\u0103, \u0219tiind statul rom\u00e2n, c\u0103 \u0103ia de la V\u00e2lcea n-or s\u0103 vrea ei din proprie ini\u021biativ\u0103 s\u0103 aplice norma de la sediul social al PFA-ului, dat fiind c\u0103 eu domiciliez in V\u00e2lcea, c\u0103 e vorba de mai pu\u021bini bani \u0219i plm.<\/p>\n

Dar eu nici nu stau de d-\u0103stea. O fi ea simpl\u0103 contabilitatea de PFA, dar eu sunt pafarist. Am studiat timp de 1 an la ASE 2 semestre de contabilitate, materia aia era mai ur\u00e2t\u0103 dec\u00e2t limba rus\u0103. Ce vorbesc eu, mie mi-a pl\u0103cut rusa la \u0219coal\u0103. Oribil. Nevasta \u0219tie d-\u0103stea, ea \u00ee\u0219i \u021bine singur\u0103 contabilitatea, eu pl\u0103tesc un contabil. Cineva pe care \u00eel cunosc \u0219i despre aveam referin\u021be pozitive.<\/p>\n

\u0218i omul a zis simplu. Eu le trimit actele prin po\u0219t\u0103 \u0219i-s obliga\u021bi de lege s\u0103 le proceseze a\u0219a cum le-am cerut. \u0218i a\u0219a a \u0219i r\u0103mas.<\/p>\n

Defini\u021bie: \u00cen mintea mea, contabilul e omul \u0103la, care, \u00een afar\u0103 de contabilitatea propriuzis\u0103 \u0219i tehnic\u0103, \u00ee\u021bi face serviciul de a rela\u021biona cu angaja\u021bii statului \u0219i de a te scuti de boli mentale. Un om necesar, \u00een Rom\u00e2nia.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Aceasta a fost introducerea, cam lung\u0103.<\/p>\n

Un fost coleg a renun\u021bat \u0219i el s\u0103 mai fie angajat, c\u0103 se pare c\u0103 eun pic mai \u00a0bine a\u0219a. \u0218i \u0219tie \u0219i el contabilitate, tot la fel ca mine. \u0218i tot la fel ca mine are un apartament \u00een Bucure\u0219ti, dar domiciliaz\u0103 \u00eentr-un jude\u021b unde norma e dubl\u0103 fa\u021b\u0103 de capital\u0103. \u00a0Prin urmare am discutat un pic \u0219i a urmat \u0219i el acela\u0219i model de business. Logic?<\/p>\n

El a g\u0103sit o contabil\u0103 din jude\u021bul lui, c\u0103 \u00eei era mai la \u00eendem\u00e2n\u0103 ( contabilei) s\u0103 \u00a0se ocupe de rela\u021bia cu ANAF-ul de-acolo.<\/p>\n

Dar ce s\u0103 vezi. \u00a0Mai era o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 expira termenul de depus ni\u0219te acte \u0219i-l sun\u0103 contabila lui, c\u0103 nu se poate s\u0103 depun\u0103 actele la jude\u021b cu PFA pe Bucure\u0219ti, c\u0103 nu e normal, c\u0103 s\u0103 le depun\u0103 la Bucure\u0219ti.\u00a0C\u0103 NU SE POATE. C\u0103 a vorbit cu aia de la ANAF \u0219i EI nu accept\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Acuma, s\u0103 ne \u00een\u021belegem. Normal nu prea e. \u00cens\u0103 legal ,da. A\u0219a e legea, pula mea. Eu , dac\u0103 voiam s\u0103-mi iau rela\u021bia cu ANAF-ul de la V\u00e2lcea la Bucure\u0219ti, trebuia s\u0103 trimit o cerere de modificare a domiciliului fiscal. C\u0103 a\u0219a e legea \u0219i procedura. Ori, ba bine c\u0103 nu, las\u0103, \u021bine\u021bi-o acolo.<\/p>\n

Dar se pare c\u0103 \u00a0\u00een alt jude\u021b e altfel, cum apuci. \u00a0\u0218i m\u0103 \u00eentreab\u0103 omul dac\u0103 contabilul meu nu poate s\u0103-l ajute \u0219i pe el. Zic \u201db\u0103, nu \u0219tiu, ia de vorbe\u0219te cu el.\u201d \u0218i se pare c\u0103 poate, pe acela\u0219i principiu, \u201deu le dau actele prin po\u0219t\u0103 \u0219i n-au dec\u00e2t s\u0103 le proceseze\u201d. C\u0103 aia e legea. Pam-pam.<\/p>\n

Cum or face mai departe e treaba lor, eu i-am adus contabilului meu un client, \u00a0pe coleg l-am ajutat s\u0103-\u0219i rezolve beleaua, c\u0103 nici nu e \u00een \u021bar\u0103, iar \u0103\u0219tia de la ANAF sunt stric\u021bi cu termenele. Ai dep\u0103\u0219it, bele\u0219ti pula, amend\u0103.<\/p>\n

Dar colegul \u0103sta al meu \u00a0e d-\u0103sta cam ca mine, are tr\u00e2n\u0219i \u00een cur, \u0219i-a sunat-o pe aia a lui s\u0103-i spun\u0103 c\u0103 e proast\u0103, sau ceva. S\u0103-i spun\u0103 c\u0103 nu \u0219tie ea, dar se poate cum v-am explicat mai sus \u0219i nu trebuie s\u0103 mai schimbe el buletine \u00een timp record, sau s\u0103 fac\u0103 alte cereri.<\/p>\n

Iar contabila \u00eei r\u0103spunde EPIC\u00a0c\u0103, da, \u0219tie \u0219i ea c\u0103 legal se poate, dar EA \u00ceI \u00a0CUNOA\u0218TE pe \u0103ia de la ANAF \u0219i nu poate S\u0102 LE FOR\u021aEZE M\u00c2NA, c\u0103 pe urm\u0103 o ard \u0219i ei<\/em> data viitoare!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mooori! Pa\u0219tele m\u0103-sii de via\u021b\u0103, deci, \u00a0respectarea legii \u00a0\u00eenseamn\u0103 s\u0103 le for\u021bezi m\u00e2na \u0103stora, b\u0103h. \u0218i nu-i vorba de vreun favor, de vreo chestie de tipul \u201dstr\u00e2ns cu u\u0219a\u201d , for\u021bat ni\u0219te termene.<\/p>\n

Nu, sunt o m\u00e2n\u0103 de acte, un dosar cu \u0219in\u0103 \u0219i ni\u0219te timbre fiscale ( probabil ), care-s de procesat. C\u00e2ndva. C\u0103 nu-i oblig\u0103 nimeni pe \u0103ia de la ANAF s\u0103 le fac\u0103 m\u00e2ine. Ei te oblig\u0103 s\u0103 le dai la timp. Iar contabilul, pe care \u00eel pl\u0103te\u0219ti tu, nu te poate ajuta, c\u0103 el are rela\u021bii de cumetrie \u00eentre\u021binut cu angaja\u021bii statului, pe banii t\u0103i.<\/p>\n

A\u0219a e aici la noi, \u00een \u021bara noastr\u0103. Du-te \u00een pula mea de client, eu cu ANAF-ul am combina\u021bii, nu cu tine.<\/p>\n

Acum, eu n-o \u0219tiu pe vaca aia, dar s\u0103 nu-i dai banii nu e de-ajuns. Adic\u0103 era de-ajuns, dac\u0103 nu \u0219tia legea, \u00a0c\u0103 aia e, se mai \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 s\u0103 fii \u00eencompetent uneori, poate e lips\u0103 de experien\u021b\u0103, poate \u00eenva\u021b\u0103 ea. Dar \u0103sta-i sabotaj. Dup\u0103 ce treci cu ma\u0219ina peste ea te mai g\u00e2nde\u0219ti dac\u0103 dai \u0219i \u00eenapoi.<\/p>\n

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