

{"id":9307,"date":"2017-08-09T15:23:29","date_gmt":"2017-08-09T13:23:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=9307"},"modified":"2017-08-10T10:22:12","modified_gmt":"2017-08-10T08:22:12","slug":"vodafone-inca-o-dubla","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/catalinx.ro\/wordpress\/?p=9307","title":{"rendered":"Vodafone. \u00cenc\u0103 o dubl\u0103"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p>Din capitolul via\u021ba e complex\u0103 \u0219i are multe aspecte.<\/p>\n<p>Am men\u021bionat c\u0103 am ajuns in Danemarca \u0219i c\u0103 m-am trezit brutal f\u0103r\u0103 voce \u00een roaming. Gen, \u00een Polonia mergea, trei ore mai t\u00e2rziu, \u00een fa\u021ba biroului, nu puteam s\u0103 chem pe cineva s\u0103 m\u0103 ia. Noroc cu Whatsapp-ul \u0219i cu faptul c\u0103 netul mergea. Le-am scris eu lor de pe pagina de contact, folosind formularul lor, \u00a0probabil c\u0103 mi-au dat direct \u201dIgnore\u201d, dar nu m-am impacientat prea tare, c\u0103 mergea netul.<\/p>\n<p>Pe urm\u0103 s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat treaba cu zborul futut \u0219i am ajuns \u00een \u00a0Germania, \u00een nevoia de a suna la un hotel. Pula voce, pula net. C\u0103 eram aruncat direct in Vodafone DE, din moment ce au prezen\u021b\u0103 acolo \u0219i nu au \u201ddeal\u201d cu al\u021bii s\u0103 m\u0103 primeasc\u0103 \u00een re\u021bea, deci nu puteam for\u021ba operatorul \u00een roaming.<\/p>\n<p>Nici mesajele la *123# nu mergeau. \u00a0I-am spus doamnei s\u0103-mi mai bage \u00a0o fis\u0103 pe cont, ca s\u0103 fiu sigur c\u0103 am b\u0103net. Degeaba. \u00a0Plm, m-am descurcat eu cumva, c\u0103-s b\u0103iat mare, dar ajuns \u00een Rom\u00e2nia am sunat, mai mult s\u0103-i \u00eenjur, c\u0103 nu aveam speran\u021ba c\u0103 m\u0103 pot ajuta ei cu ceva, logic.<\/p>\n<p>E amuzant c\u0103 de\u0219i am sunat la num\u0103rul \u0103la taxat cu 0.55 EUR, c\u0103 nu am poft\u0103 s\u0103 stau la coad\u0103 c\u00e2nd vreau s\u0103-njur, tot pe m\u00e2na Andreei \u00eencapi, ini\u021bial . Andreea e roboata lor. Pe urm\u0103 am vorbit cu alt\u0103 femeie, dar cu \u0219i mai pu\u021bin\u0103 inteligen\u021b\u0103 dec\u00e2t aia artificial\u0103. \u00a0Fiind femeie, m-am ab\u021binut de la injurii. Cu greu.<\/p>\n<p>Mi-a explicat demoazela urm\u0103toarele de mai jos. Nota bene, \u00een caz c\u0103 vre\u021bi roaming \u00een UE de la Vodafone. C\u0103 altfel lua\u021bi \u00een muie.<\/p>\n<p>C\u0103 am avut eu o op\u021biune de 5 EUR, ale c\u0103rei \u00a0beneficii se transmit \u0219i \u00een roaming, pentru c\u0103-i ofert\u0103 veche \u0219i-s obliga\u021bi s-o lase a\u0219a \u0219i c\u0103 va func\u021biona asta p\u00e2n\u0103 la 30 septembrie. Mi-e egal cu 0, eu terminasem deja op\u021biunea asta c\u00e2nd eram \u00een vacan\u021b\u0103 \u0219i am activat de atunci alta, de 6 euro, ca s\u0103 avem naviga\u021bie prin g\u0103Waze.<\/p>\n<p>Doamna a confirmat \u0219i-a mai zis \u0219i c\u0103 \u0103sta e motivul pentru care nu am mai avut roaming, c\u0103 op\u021biunea aia e f\u0103r\u0103 roaming.<\/p>\n<p>Gen What? Eu am achizi\u021bionat-o intr\u00e2nd \u00een aplica\u021bia de vodafone \u0219i pl\u0103tind cu cardul, nu scria a\u0219a ceva, dimpotriva, se specific\u0103 despre minute interna\u021bionale.<\/p>\n<p>Doamna a insistat c\u0103 la activare ( adic\u0103 dup\u0103 activare, ca s\u0103 fim preci\u0219i) trebuia s\u0103 fi primit un mesaj de la Vodafone \u00een care mi se spune c\u0103 op\u021biunea nu are roaming, mai exact nu c\u0103 mi se spune asta, dar mi se spune c\u0103 dac\u0103 vreau roaming au ei unele de la 8 euro \u00een sus . B\u0103, e\u0219ti prost?<\/p>\n<p>Eu insist c\u0103 nu \u0219tie despre ce vorbe\u0219te, op\u021biunea aia a func\u021bionat c\u00e2nd am activat-o \u0219i-am \u0219i consumat net \u0219i minute din ea, c\u0103 o terminasem pe aia de 5, \u0219i ca daca era a\u0219a, s\u0103 fi men\u021bionat ei c\u0103 e f\u0103r\u0103 roaming, nu eram prost s\u0103 iau una de 6. O luam tot pe aia de 5.<\/p>\n<p>Ea c\u0103 nu, c\u0103 a mai mers a\u0219a c\u0103 era activ\u0103 \u0219i aia de 5 ( de\u0219i beneficiile de net erau epuizate) \u0219i c\u0103 \u00a0nu a mai mers c\u00e2nd a expirat timpul.<\/p>\n<p>E corect c\u0103 timpul \u0103la \u00a0a expirat la 31 iulie , iar eu am plecat pe 1.<\/p>\n<p>Uit\u00e2ndu-m\u0103 pe urm\u0103, v\u0103d \u0219i c\u0103 pentru net am consumat din creditul de pe cartel\u0103, aspect cu care nu am nicio problem\u0103. M\u0103 doare \u00een pul\u0103, foarte bine, dac\u0103 nu au poft\u0103 s\u0103-mi dea pachete de date \u00een afara Rom\u00e2niei, s\u0103 m\u0103 taxeze, de ce nu?<\/p>\n<p>Dar am o problem\u0103 cu faptul c\u0103 pentru net au metod\u0103 s\u0103-mi ia bani ( doar in Danemarca), dar pentru voce nu. \u00a0\u0218i dac\u0103 nu au , Kaput, coaie!<\/p>\n<p>Iar \u00een Germania nu au metod\u0103 pentru deniciunele.<\/p>\n<p>I-am spus \u0103lia c\u0103-mi bag pula, fac reclama\u021bie la ANPC \u0219i ANRC ( ANCOM, plm, am \u00eemb\u0103tr\u00e2nit \u0219i eu).<\/p>\n<p>Lucru pe care \u00eel \u0219i fac, adic\u0103 am s\u0103 scot pulile din articolul \u0103sta \u0219i-am s\u0103 pun ni\u0219te screen\u0219oturi din telefon.<\/p>\n<p>C\u0103 nu po\u021bi, coaie, s\u0103-mi tai tu roamingul a\u0219a, c\u00e2nd vrea pula ta, mai ales acum c\u0103 cic\u0103 e \u201droam like at home\u201d. P\u0103i, ar trebui s\u0103 fie mai bine ca \u00eenainte, nu mai r\u0103u.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Sunt un abuzator de servicii mobile ( conf. Vodafone)<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Cea mai tare faz\u0103, dup\u0103 ce am vorbit cu duduia, am primit un SMS prin care \u00eemi spun ei c\u0103 \u00a0activitatea mea e preponderent \u00een roaming ( Dac\u0103 iau ultima lun\u0103 ca reper, au dreptate) \u0219i c\u0103, \u00a0conform legisla\u021biei, oferta \u00een roaming este pentru c\u0103l\u0103toriile ocazionale \u00een afara \u021b\u0103rii, \u00een limitele unei utiliz\u0103ri rezonabile.<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i c\u0103 pentru a evita suprataxarea s\u0103 m\u0103 prezint \u00eentr-un magazin cu SIM-ul \u00a0\u0219i documentele relevante ( prin care s\u0103 dovedesc c\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103 locuiesc \u00een Rom\u00e2nia) \u00een termen de 14 zile.<\/p>\n<p>Altfel ce? \u00cen afar\u0103 de caii de la biciclet\u0103, bine\u00een\u021beles, \u00a0m\u0103 vor taxa cu circa 7.5 EUR per gigabyte \u0219i cu circa 1 cent pe minut per apel primit.<\/p>\n<p>Zi s\u0103 moar\u0103 m\u0103-ta, Vodafone!?<\/p>\n<p>P\u0103i, ce s\u0103 spun, nu \u0219tiu ce ar trebui s\u0103 fac, s\u0103 mai a\u0219tept 14 zile, ca un fraier, f\u0103r\u0103 roaming , p\u00e2n\u0103 se decid ei s\u0103-mi ia banii, sau s\u0103 m\u0103 duc , s\u0103-i \u00eenfig pula \u00een muie primei f\u0103tuci de la rela\u021bii cu clien\u021bii dintr-un magazin \u0219i s-o mint \u00a0direct c\u0103 nu mai locuiesc \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, c\u0103 m\u0103 pi\u0219 pe suprataxa lor de s\u0103raci \u0219i s\u0103 fac\u0103 bine s\u0103 m\u0103 taxeze mai repede, \u00eenainte s\u0103-i mai pr\u0103duiesc eu de ni\u0219te internet din op\u021biunea aia de 5 EUR pe care inten\u021bionez s\u0103 mi-o activez din nou?<\/p>\n<p>Desigur, abuzivi sunt ei, Astea-s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vodafone.ro\/roaming-prepay\"><strong>condi\u021biile.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Defini\u021bia abuzului.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Conform Regulamentului de roaming UE 531\/2012 modificat \u015fi completat de Regulamentul UE 2016\/2286, pentru a determina dac\u0103 o utilizare este <strong>excesiv\u0103, abuziv\u0103 \u015fi anormal\u0103<\/strong> vor fi luate \u00een considerare oricare dintre urm\u0103toarele criterii \u0219i mecanisme de control:<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<blockquote><p>reziden\u021ba\/domiciliul \u00een Rom\u00e2nia a utilizatorului de servicii de Roaming reglementat sau prezentarea unor dovezi care s\u0103 sus\u021bin\u0103 leg\u0103turile stabile cu Rom\u00e2nia (ex. prin prezentarea c\u0103r\u021bii de identitate cu domiciliul \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, a unui permis de \u0219edere\/de munc\u0103 valabil, a unei adeverin\u021be de studii etc.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<blockquote><p>indicatori obiectivi privind prezen\u0163a fizic\u0103 (conectarea cartelei SIM) \u015fi consumul (apelurile, SMS-urile sau traficul de internet), majoritar \u00een roaming SEE fa\u021b\u0103 de consumul \u0219i prezen\u021ba na\u021bional\u0103, \u00een mod cumulat \u015fi pentru o perioad\u0103 de cel pu\u0163in 4 luni<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<blockquote><p>indicatori obiectivi privind inactivitatea unei Cartele SIM pe teritoriul na\u021bional, asociat\u0103 unei utiliz\u0103ri preponderente sau chiar exclusive \u00een roaming<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<blockquote><p>indicatori obiectivi privind cump\u0103rarea \u0219i utilizarea succesiv\u0103 \u00een roaming a mai multor cartele SIM de c\u0103tre acela\u0219i client<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<blockquote><p>rev\u00e2nzarea de servicii Vodafone sau cartele SIM<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u0102stea sunt criteriile lor. B\u0103i, ca s\u0103 fie clar, pe ultimul \u00eel \u00een\u021beleg , sunt de acord cu el, c\u0103 \u0219tiu cum e treaba cu VoIP \u00a0pe cartele \u00a0prepay, nu detaliez. Adic\u0103, da, nu-s agent comercial.<\/p>\n<p>Aia cu reziden\u021ba cumva-cumva o \u00een\u021beleg, de\u0219i e stupid, c\u0103 to\u021bi c\u0103p\u0219unarii cred c\u0103 pot prezenta un act de domiciliu din Rom\u00e2nia. CI\/ Buletinul, \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, e un act de domiciliu.<\/p>\n<p>Cu al doilea nu-s de acord. Cumulat pe 4 luni sunt sigur c\u0103-i destul\u0103 prezen\u021b\u0103 fizic\u0103 a mea \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. C\u0103c\u0103l\u0103u. \u0218i consum.<\/p>\n<p>Pe al 4lea punct garantez eu c\u0103 nu sunt ei capabili s\u0103-l urm\u0103reasc\u0103 eficient. \u00a0La ce angaja\u021bi \u0219i servicii au &#8211; trolololol.<\/p>\n<p>Dar \u0219tii care partea tare? C\u0103 \u201dpedeapsa\u201d e taxarea roamingului, cum am scris mai sus. \u00a0P\u0103i aia le-o cer eu, de bun\u0103 voie, dac\u0103 despre aia e vorba, c\u0103-i tot mai ieftin\u0103 dec\u00e2t era netul \u00eenainte de potop.<\/p>\n<p>B\u0103, s\u0103 ne-n\u021belegem . Pe mine m\u0103 doare \u00een pul\u0103 \u0219i dac\u0103-mi taie num\u0103rul. Vai mie, \u00een primul r\u00e2nd c\u0103 nu e al lor, iar dac\u0103 \u00eemi e important, \u00eel portez la al\u021bi ho\u021bi \u0219i incompeten\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Pot s\u0103 \u00eemi iau \u00a0X00 de cartele prepl\u0103tite s\u0103 le fac exploit la ofertele lor de roaming \u0219i p\u00e2n\u0103 se prind ei pot s\u0103-mi sug\u0103 pula, le activez pe r\u00e2nd c\u00e2te una, dac\u0103 despre asta e vorba. Da&#8217; mi-e lene \u0219i-i cam treab\u0103 de s\u0103raci. Cunosc sentimentul, aveam cartel\u0103 la ei \u0219i c\u00e2nd primeai un dolar la fiecare 100 de minute primite \u0219i nu \u0219ti\u021bi voi ce metode aveam atunci. Deh, s\u0103r\u0103cia.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen ceea ce m\u0103 prive\u0219te pot s\u0103-mi interzic\u0103, dac\u0103 vor, IMEI-ul \u00een re\u021bea, ce n-a\u021bi auzit de Lyca Mobile? Nu c\u0103 nu am deja o cartel\u0103 de UK \u0219i pot s\u0103 o folosesc pe aia la relativ acelea\u0219i costuri. Mi se pare aproape inutil acum s\u0103 ai un num\u0103r de Rom\u00e2nia. E util dac\u0103 ai cont bancar aci, dar am s-o rezolv \u0219i pe asta, nu-i bai.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Morala<\/strong>: Eu m-am l\u0103murit de un lucru: A\u0219tia pot s\u0103 fie c\u00e2t de \u00a0<em>dec\u0103cat<\/em> vor ei, io abonament nu-mi mai iau prea curand la telefonie mobil\u0103. Nu au dec\u00e2t s\u0103-mi sug\u0103 pula, via\u021ba mea de-acu \u00eenainte, cel pu\u021bin \u00een rela\u021bie cu chestiile din Rom\u00e2nia, va fi pe c\u00e2t posibil \u201dPay as You Go\u201d, la orice se poate aplica rezonabil.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Din capitolul via\u021ba e complex\u0103 \u0219i are multe aspecte. 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